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hi everyone welcome to the ufo hub live

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uh thank you for spending your friday

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with me and i hope you all are doing

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well

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this week has been quite unique for me

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it's been very busy and hectic and all

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kinds of ways that

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it usually is not and um maybe you can

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tell maybe you can't i got

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burnt my melon over the last weekend and

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i should have known better to wear a hat

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or something but anyway dealing with a

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whole bunch of stuff

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but um thank you for being here and uh

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today i was really trying real hard to

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find a guest

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to get somebody and i've contacted a lot

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of people and just so happened that

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everybody wanted to but not this friday

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so a whole bunch of stuff is ready for

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next week

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but uh unfortunately you get to stick

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with me today

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i'm hoping that i can i've been wanting

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to kind of go over

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a talk that i gave several years back

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during the kc pericon conference and i

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called it the five stages of contact

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i wanted to go a little bit more into

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detail because

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while you're on stage you're kind of on

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the spot and you have to talk and

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make sense and you know all that other

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stuff so this way i can just

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um go over step by step and give as much

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detail as i possibly can

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maybe some of these things you already

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know about

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maybe some things you don't but again i

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hope you get something from this and

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if not at least thank you for spending

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the weekend or at least

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the friday with me so um just a few

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things first

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i wanted to there's as of today there's

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two weeks left

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to the ozark ufo conference that's going

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to be held virtually

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and um let me see here

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you can access you can go go to the

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ozark ufo conference website

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and click on the register button below

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to

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basically get the virtual ticket and

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i don't know if you noticed i've i've

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been trying to

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get a lot of people that are on that

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list to talk to them ahead of time

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for you to kind of get an idea who they

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are if you haven't

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met them or known about them and

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it's been challenging to get all of them

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so far i've talked to

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donna lynn garnet schulhauser

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mary rodwell michael horn next week i'm

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terry lovelace a webcast pre-recorded

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interview

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and he's the author of um it's called

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the devil's den i believe

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a book and the second one he had come

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what that is all about but um and then

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don't hold me to it i've been trying to

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get um to have a live

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show with george nori and we've been in

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contact and he's been trying to work it

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out with his schedule

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it potentially would not be friday i'll

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still have a friday show

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but it'll be maybe some other day so

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of 7 p.m uh uh central standard time

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so anyway and so i've reached out to

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some of the other speakers if i can get

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them i'll do my best to get them

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but you can always watch them and ask

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them questions yourself and partake

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during this ozark virtual beautiful

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they're hoping that next year uh we'll

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and then i hope to see some of you there

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in person but it is what it is

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uh for now so yeah check it out

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and um the the platform is called hopin

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uh basically it'll be it'll be simple to

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to register and and just partake as an

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but it has built-in features to where

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fellow attendees as well create your

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in the chat itself you can right click

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to a um a virtual call and

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so it's very versatile and i hope you do

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join us it's a it's a project that i've

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uh or working on at ozark so i'm very

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i had to figure out quite a lot of how

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it functions how it works and

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kind of make it happen i've been

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beforehand and just kind of how to share

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um i don't know if i'm supposed to say

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this yet but

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grant the little bit of a conversation

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that i had with him while we were

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grant cameron that is while we were

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something new during the conference and

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he's excited about it but then again

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people usually are i don't know what it

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so i don't want to you know kind of

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set up some expectations but that's the

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kind of back backstage info that i have

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so anyway um yeah check it out two more

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and uh on the ozark ufo conference

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let me go back here there's a schedule

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right here and i'll give you an idea

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when they will be speaking and there's

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um everyone will be going over to the

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sessions and that's when you can have

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but i can't make any promises so anyway

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that's regarding that so

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please please check it out let

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and then go back to chat where all

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so uh as always if you if you have some

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easier for me

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so that i can see that it's in reference

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to me instead of you chatting chatting

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with someone else in the chat room

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so they'll help me out a lot

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i'm gonna get a little drink of water so

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out with uh with the five stages of

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the reason why i initially called that

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to randomly talk to people about

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different things like channeling and

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dreaming and and contact and all these

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other things it was

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it was like you know it was too random

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what stages were more prevalent than

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what can people kind of generally expect

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uh were basically the something i'll go

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the contact has already occurred

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that our collective consciousness uh has

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faced with something that is no pun

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reverberating shockwave to where we

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that could potentially be other life

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that something has occurred for us to

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and for as long as humanity has existed

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there have been people that on their own

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thought well maybe there is

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you know other lives out their life out

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we are on a planet and there's all these

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things in the sky which i'm sure depends

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on which stage we're talking about of

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they didn't know what stars or other

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planets where and what not

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but anyway the the consciousness touch

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is in reference to

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when when they were first

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psyche our collective psyche and it

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the idea as we now know as you know

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entertainment

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where you basically have different

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people then follow their path and their

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imagination to create a movie

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or to write a book you know and um

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you know at that time especially you

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know it was all fiction of course in

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science fiction

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and then you had other things you know

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more recent like star trek and things

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like that

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and what i had experienced was that none

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of that

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really was was an accident it's basic is

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basically there to

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to prime humanity to to this potential

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that we're not alone

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and that that there's going to be an

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eventual understanding that

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we're not the only ones in the universe

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but that process

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takes a long time and so um

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you know we think it could you know that

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you know it might come tomorrow on

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whatnot this has been going on for for

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and so uh but it keeps ramping up more

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and more you know i don't know if you

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got to see some of the recent movies

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which were

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oh shoot what was it called i believe it

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was called the arrival

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and it was basically where these uh

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different ships just show up and on

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different

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they're trying to figure out what

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what that's about well what was

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interesting particularly about that one

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is that you know they showed that the

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more you are in touch with them

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it's like you you start to dream

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more and you start to understand

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more and more through through the

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dreaming that

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kind of time is elusive and that you

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know you don't know exactly it

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they could be talking to you in the

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future in the past and if i'm if i'm

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remembering the timeline correctly but

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the point is

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is you know we're that's that is the

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kind of stuff

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that i'm defining as the consciousness

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touch is that we're slowly being

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integrated into an idea that there are

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several different

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modalities when it comes to contact so

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anyway so the the the number one the

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first stage

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has already occurred we didn't realize

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it it's almost like a person

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standing in a room and peripherally you

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can see them but you're not bothering to

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turn around and look at that person

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you're just kind of you're still you

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know they're there and

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for whatever reason you don't want to

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interact with them you're still going

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about your business doing what you want

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to do in your room

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but you're not looking at them and that

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is kind of what we're doing as humanity

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i know i i don't mean to piss some

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people off that are like hardcore

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researchers and all this stuff um you

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know

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that's a noble thing to do but there's

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still

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an aspect that a lot of us are kind of

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unconscious to that we're still

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ignoring that doing research to a lot of

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ways

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is kind of like distraction of well i

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stick to the hard

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hard core nuts and bolts stuff because

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that will delay

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more of what i have to look over and

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face

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and that is kind of what the

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consciousness touch is

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so the next one on the list is first

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contact

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labeling it as these different ships

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these uh different stories and contexts

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throughout

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decades that people have said i've had

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contact

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um i've seen lights and um you know i

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woke up in in this

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strange place on a bed with these beings

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around

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that is what i consider the first

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contact which is first contact more on

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individual bases and there's different

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reasons why these different contacts are

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happening but

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generally is to get as many people on

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individual on an individual basis that

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can handle

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these different changes in energy

363
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between their energy and hours

364
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and contact to officially occur to get

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us

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uh basically enough they can tell which

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people are kind of

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uh more easily approachable

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to where they're not gonna part my

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french lose their when this happens

371
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because that's exactly what occurs when

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when when this happens as much as i

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wanted to

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be in contact with these aliens and you

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know and

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trying to understand why why they're

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here what they're about

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for me it started when i was 15. it was

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a very strong drive

380
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but nothing prepared me to the level of

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fear

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that came about and as i've mentioned

383
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maybe before and for those who don't

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know

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it wasn't necessarily the fear that

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there was something to fear of

387
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them it was the the difference in that

388
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energy

389
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causes these physical um physical

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reactions to us to where we

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it's it's such a level of fear that

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sometimes

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the brain almost can't handle it and

394
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we would kind of go into a shock and i

395
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don't know if some of you have followed

396
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bashar channeling often he talks about

397
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that as well

398
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and in a way i was very glad that i was

399
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i guess learned about that beforehand

400
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while i was still doing my nuts and

401
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bolts research

402
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because as it was then happening to me

403
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it it was

404
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like this little beacon of light that i

405
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could hold on to

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and to basically anytime i had an

407
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occurrence to just say

408
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it's okay i know i'm scared and i can't

409
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you know can't do anything about it i'm

410
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gonna be okay

411
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and only after you know more and more um

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exposure to that and and the familiarity

413
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with with

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what's happening to you you know

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psychologically

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once i kind of understood that it

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becomes

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easier to just then next time you know

419
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after so many times to just kind of

420
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become aware of oh

421
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change is occurring they're here or

422
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something is happening let's just allow

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whatever information needs to come

424
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and so anyway um

425
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my train of thought anyway so

426
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generally first contact is basically to

427
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just

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get enough people kind of

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prepared like like i you know i am here

430
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that doesn't mean that my information is

431
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the all be

432
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all i urge you all to go down every path

433
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you can possibly go

434
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to learn whatever you possibly can and

435
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:20,240
not to just

436
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:23,760
uh kind of um you know push things away

437
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,240
um

438
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just take whatever information you can

439
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:27,679
uh read about it

440
00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:30,480
um do whatever steps you can physically

441
00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:30,880
uh

442
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:33,520
do to basically understand the subject

443
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:34,720
better

444
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mine in the very beginning obviously was

445
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books so i read

446
00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:40,080
every book i could possibly get my hands

447
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on which was not a lot

448
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:43,679
you know and especially in the very

449
00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:45,200
beginning

450
00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:48,400
david jacobs books they were extremely

451
00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:49,039
scary

452
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because you read these these stories

453
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about

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the salient race coming down and doing

455
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:55,919
these you know uh

456
00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:58,960
um abductions against our will and then

457
00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:00,640
they're creating this other race and

458
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,880
that could only mean that they're trying

459
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:04,799
to take over this planet and this army

460
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:06,400
is going to land any minute

461
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,480
and take over when they're ready you

462
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:09,919
know and uh

463
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:12,240
that's if i remember the gist of that of

464
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those different books

465
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and so um even to this day after i know

466
00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,120
better

467
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:18,960
i would still recommend for you to go in

468
00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:21,360
and read it you have to read it on your

469
00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:21,840
own

470
00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,559
somebody

471
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,400
you know at the end of the day

472
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:30,559
experience trumps everything

473
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,159
and so you have to try to go in and

474
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:37,120
do whatever you can to to physically for

475
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:38,320
you to

476
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let's say be at a place uh let's say

477
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read a book let's say

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anything that requires you physically

479
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:47,120
going after instead of just sitting back

480
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,760
and

481
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:50,400
watching others kind of do everything

482
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,039
and then

483
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complaining why don't you understand the

484
00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:58,870
excuse me so that is basically the first

485
00:21:03,430 --> 00:20:59,520
contact

486
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,440
is to still compare to how many people

487
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:05,200
live on the planet

488
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,240
actual context are very rare and far

489
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far in between and it's basically just

490
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,159
to prep

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enough people to like me and richard

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dolan and grant cameron

493
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:18,559
and many others you know even if you're

494
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:20,400
not doing anything publicly even if you

495
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:21,280
were just

496
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:24,960
contacted on your personal level to just

497
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:28,159
even the people within immediate uh

498
00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:30,799
circle of yours to kind of know you as

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that is the person i can go to and talk

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to

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because a lot of times all most people

502
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,520
really need

503
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,600
is somebody to talk to you know it's

504
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:41,520
somebody that they can just

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00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:43,919
confine to and say hey i've been going

506
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:44,640
through this

507
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:47,039
and and i don't know what to do should i

508
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:48,799
go to a psychiatrist what's happening

509
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,520
with me

510
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,600
all these other things because a lot of

511
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,840
times when when you go to a doctor when

512
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,280
you go to a psychiatrist

513
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:57,600
they always look at you your something

514
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:00,400
that's that's wrong that needs fixing

515
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,240
instead of um simply being a voice of

516
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:06,159
reason for you or just being somebody

517
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:07,440
there to listen and

518
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:10,159
i find that a friend and and somebody

519
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,080
close can do a much better job than

520
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:14,240
having to pay somebody to go and listen

521
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:15,280
only

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00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:19,520
definition and something that they got

523
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,559
from a book

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and so and this is not to dis disparage

525
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,760
any

526
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:25,520
you know psychiatrists out there i'm

527
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,120
sure you know

528
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:29,120
they mean well but when it comes to a

529
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:30,640
lot of these different contexts you

530
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:31,760
really can't

531
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:36,000
somebody who you can

532
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:40,400
truly divulge some of these um

533
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:43,840
deep deeply

534
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:46,000
i guess rooted experiences that change

535
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,600
your psyche

536
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:49,600
so anyway that is so consciousness

537
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,280
touched in your first contact

538
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:53,520
which is what i just explained so

539
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:54,799
channeling

540
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:58,320
again everything i'm telling you i'm

541
00:23:03,270 --> 00:22:59,760
telling you about

542
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,280
what i generally understood um

543
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:05,919
for the global for the whole planet and

544
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,480
this is

545
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:08,720
you know this doesn't mean that somebody

546
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,919
individually is going to have to go

547
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:11,600
exactly through these steps

548
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:15,280
but channeling is basically their first

549
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:15,679
way

550
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,120
of of making contact of

551
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,000
um them announcing themselves through

552
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:24,480
making connections with certain

553
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,679
humans that can easily connect to

554
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:29,840
their consciousness and and interact

555
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:32,080
with them learn from them and then

556
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:35,360
get certain messages and sometimes

557
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:37,840
these messages on us it's exactly just

558
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,400
there to be this airy fairy oh we're all

559
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:42,559
one let's all you know hug and

560
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:44,799
you know dance and around the fire you

561
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:46,640
know again you can but

562
00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,480
the point is that their level

563
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,880
where they're at requires a certain

564
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:54,240
overcoming of

565
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,120
and so

566
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,480
they kind of help through channels

567
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:07,039
do these different um give you these

568
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:08,559
certain messages to

569
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,400
help you understand more about yourself

570
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,960
and so then that way in every aspect or

571
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:16,480
every point in your life you can

572
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:17,520
basically

573
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,480
use those to work things out and be

574
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,679
where you need to be

575
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,480
toward then when you are the the the

576
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:26,159
being that you wanted to be then the

577
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:27,120
energy

578
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,520
is not convoluted it's kind of like um

579
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,520
trying imagining water or bottle of

580
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,520
water that has some kind of

581
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,840
ink inside just a tiny bit that's not

582
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:38,640
quite

583
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,159
clear and

584
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:44,159
try to think of energy in the same way

585
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:45,440
and that ink could be

586
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:48,080
anger you know could be a childhood fear

587
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,480
uh

588
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:50,400
could be misunderstanding between you

589
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:51,520
and your parents

590
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:54,320
and any other relative uh problems at

591
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:54,960
the job

592
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:57,919
all these other things because it's

593
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:58,720
again

594
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,600
when you look at what does for example

595
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:03,440
my issues at a job have to do with

596
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,159
contact

597
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,760
when you look at it at that point of

598
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,200
view nothing

599
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,600
but when you when you try to understand

600
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:12,000
using spirituality and consciousness and

601
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,880
energy

602
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:15,360
then you see that both of these have

603
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:16,000
energies

604
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,549
i'm sorry i just keep losing my train of

605
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,840
thought maybe because

606
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:26,000
i'm a bit chilly here i tried to get

607
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:26,960
this place

608
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,120
warmed up enough but with all this

609
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:30,559
equipment here works better when it's

610
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,600
cold so

611
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:33,760
my mind is just that's why i keep doing

612
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,000
this just keep my fingers warm so

613
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:38,559
sorry for any kind of distractions if if

614
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:41,440
i'm doing some silly stuff

615
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:45,360
um basically the channeling is to

616
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,480
get you to um just start working

617
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:51,039
on on things i've had several videos out

618
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:51,760
there where

619
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:54,720
then i started um with the very basic

620
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:55,600
premise

621
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:59,520
which is um the

622
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:02,640
thoughts create form but it's your

623
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:06,080
your your feelings your your

624
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:09,279
emotions that vibrated into being and

625
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,159
this was actually um i believe it's the

626
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,159
pleiadian collective that was kind of

627
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,320
putting that eloquent eloquently in

628
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,440
words and what what that means is that

629
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,679
you can think about something all day

630
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:23,039
long you can

631
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:24,799
you know read about something all day

632
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:27,120
long you can even you know watch videos

633
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:27,840
all day long

634
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,799
but it's the inspiration it's that

635
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:32,320
desire to

636
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:35,360
to to get you to get up to go do

637
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,640
something to

638
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:39,440
go to a meeting you know um go hang out

639
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,320
with a friend

640
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,000
all these other things that physically

641
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:43,840
make you go do stuff

642
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,039
you know uh that is what counts in this

643
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:50,000
in this universe and this the way that

644
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:51,600
these laws are set up

645
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:55,520
so the whole the whole concept is that

646
00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:58,799
find a belief that you have and

647
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,919
uh you usually it will be always make

648
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:03,760
linked or vice versa find an emotion

649
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,120
that you have let's say a fear

650
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,200
and always be linked to a belief of some

651
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,679
sort and then you have to then discern

652
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,120
for yourself and this is where a lot of

653
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,400
that work comes in

654
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,559
where you then have to figure out what

655
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,320
is it exactly

656
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:19,360
that um you know that you're

657
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,720
um what is it exactly that you need to

658
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,159
change about it so for example

659
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:26,240
one of the examples i used was my

660
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,440
parents and the way

661
00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:29,360
i grew up because i was born in bosnia

662
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,039
and the way the parents at least

663
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:33,520
my generation i can't speak for the new

664
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:34,080
generation

665
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,679
because i have been back to bosnia in

666
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:37,760
like 30 years

667
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:40,799
excuse me and i don't know how if

668
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:43,360
things have changed much but what it was

669
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,000
is that

670
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,200
they um you know it was it was so weird

671
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:48,640
you know coming to the united states

672
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:48,960
right

673
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:50,720
over actually initially when we fled to

674
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,919
bas from bosnia to germany

675
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:55,919
the parents did this weird thing where

676
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,600
they were like talking

677
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:00,240
to their kids you know and my generation

678
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,520
there was no talking

679
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,520
the mom or dad says something you either

680
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:05,039
do it or you get the beat out of

681
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:05,679
you

682
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,720
even know why

683
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,960
and so you just do as you're told be a

684
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,240
good boy and then

685
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:14,320
you know hope that you're not gonna step

686
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:15,840
on another landmine which you don't

687
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:16,480
understand

688
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,600
what what what landmine it is and so of

689
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,360
course over the years

690
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,320
it creates a lot of these um you know

691
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,520
animosity and and

692
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:27,919
and um you know challenges and

693
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,159
difficulties within the family structure

694
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:32,000
so anyway that was one of the things i

695
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:33,520
was dealing with

696
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:36,159
and so through my experiences and then

697
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,720
of course

698
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,799
then you know pondering more on them and

699
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:41,039
trying to figure out it was simply

700
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:44,960
um one thing that basically i found out

701
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:48,000
well because of this collective in which

702
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:48,880
we're at

703
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:51,679
everything is a reflection to you and

704
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:52,799
there is no

705
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:56,399
such thing as an outside you know and

706
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,159
i don't want to like creep some of you

707
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:00,480
out but there is nothing else

708
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,159
outside of this source uh it is made out

709
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:06,240
of us and we are made out of it

710
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,520
and so everything is is

711
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:12,159
has this beautiful way of functioning

712
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:12,799
you know

713
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:18,399
it still functions in this beautiful way

714
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,120
to where

715
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,279
they truly are no accidents there's

716
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:23,440
always only experiences

717
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,880
and learning from them and so in my case

718
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,360
then it was to understand my parents

719
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,799
were the way they were

720
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,360
to build me up to for what i was doing

721
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:35,039
and what i am doing now

722
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:38,960
is to um develop this mental fortitude

723
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:41,600
when somebody um and i don't that's

724
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,520
gonna sound bad i don't mean to

725
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,840
disparage my parents anyway but you know

726
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,000
when somebody's abusing you mentally

727
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,720
for you to be able to be find that spot

728
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:52,799
to where you can still be yourself

729
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:55,360
and and kind of hold against whatever is

730
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:56,960
being which whatever you're being

731
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:00,399
attacked and and by doing that

732
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,360
and and having that experience with them

733
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,279
they built me up to that level to where

734
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:07,520
when this contact when i was had to

735
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,399
physically

736
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,840
deal with what was happening or

737
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:11,360
psychologically deal with what was

738
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,919
happening

739
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,919
i had that mental fortitude because i

740
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:15,760
had a lifetime of experience dealing

741
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,559
with it

742
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,799
and without losing myself because most

743
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:20,320
people would just

744
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:22,399
lose it you know they'll they'll you

745
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,520
know go go

746
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:26,080
to a psychiatrist and you know and and

747
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,440
don't know how to deal with it have

748
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,880
these different emotions

749
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:31,360
and they should you know work them out

750
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:33,520
and seek whatever help they can seek you

751
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:34,159
know

752
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,120
but the point is for me in the way that

753
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:39,360
my higher self understood how this life

754
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:40,399
is going to be

755
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:43,919
it you know knew what path to take

756
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,120
and um and you know over time as i

757
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,240
done you know got to hang out with more

758
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,760
bosnians you know that

759
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:53,360
you know they live in the united states

760
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,360
and you know would talk to them

761
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,640
i wasn't the only one they were

762
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:58,399
basically raised the same way

763
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:01,919
you know and i remember um you know

764
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:03,760
before i tell you this please don't be

765
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,399
offended i consider myself an american

766
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:08,799
i'm very proud to be an american and to

767
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:10,320
be here and grateful that i had this

768
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:12,080
chance to finally not have to constantly

769
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,399
be

770
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:15,120
this you know going from place to place

771
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,559
hoping to find a home

772
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:19,760
so i mean i say this very lovingly

773
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:22,799
okay so one of my friends and he's also

774
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,640
born in bosnia and we're talking

775
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,399
and we're having chinese food and he

776
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,840
just says to me

777
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:30,000
you know it was so weird i mean look at

778
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,360
us we went through

779
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:33,519
you know the war you know some longer

780
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:35,840
than others and we've witnessed horrible

781
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,559
things

782
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,399
people getting dragged down the streets

783
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,320
getting killed you know

784
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:42,320
you just don't know if you're going to

785
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:44,559
be alive you know from second to second

786
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,679
minute to minute

787
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,600
and look at us how we turned down and

788
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,120
now we come to america

789
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:51,919
and you know the this kid i know got

790
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:52,559
spanked

791
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:54,080
30 years ago and he's still going

792
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,600
psychiatrist over it

793
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:58,240
you know so it was between him and i it

794
00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:58,720
was

795
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:01,279
you know this funny comparison you know

796
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,720
because

797
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,480
you know i guess different cultures

798
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:06,480
different people you know have different

799
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,120
approaches

800
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,360
you know and how they how they do things

801
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:10,960
so anyway

802
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:13,039
i'm not saying that all of you have to

803
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,000
have the

804
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,080
experiences that i had to deal with what

805
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,000
you need what you need to deal with

806
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,720
but in your immediate environment in

807
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:22,159
your immediate area

808
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:25,440
just start out to to understand

809
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:27,919
what's not working for you you know is

810
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,519
this job

811
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:31,360
something you really want or would you

812
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,039
rather be doing something else

813
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,279
because really life is too short to just

814
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,039
be being somewhere

815
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,880
maybe for the sake of money or something

816
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:41,039
like that or maybe because of

817
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:43,760
any other reason that's not really you

818
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:44,240
and

819
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:50,880
for example in my case when i was uh

820
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:54,080
26 i eventually couldn't deal with the

821
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:56,000
the structure anymore and the way you

822
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:57,440
know my family was

823
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,640
and so i just moved out i got out found

824
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,399
the house bought it and then told told

825
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:04,320
them that hey i bought a house you know

826
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,559
and it all had to be done in this kind

827
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:08,320
of secret of the way because i know they

828
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:09,600
were going to be pissed

829
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,039
anyway so then i moved out

830
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:15,679
50 miles out of outside of san luis

831
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:16,559
which put me

832
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:19,279
in in this house in the woods similar to

833
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,480
where i live now

834
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,799
to where then i was able to then you

835
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,880
know explore and experience more

836
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,640
and and some of these videos that i had

837
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:28,320
i cover a great deal about

838
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:31,840
you know meditation um binaural beats

839
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:35,360
um and then of course i'm not endorsing

840
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:35,840
this

841
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,279
so anyone watching you have to do what

842
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:41,600
is right for you and i'm not you know

843
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:43,360
saying that you need to be doing this

844
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:44,000
but

845
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:46,880
one of my past and the way i was you

846
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:47,519
know when i

847
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:50,840
where i arrived in my life was um

848
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:54,240
psychedelics and as you can tell my

849
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:54,720
advice

850
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:57,519
is food you know i don't smoke i don't

851
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:58,480
drink i

852
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:01,840
have no desire to do any you know to do

853
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:05,600
um like a habitual drinking

854
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:08,639
or anything like that but

855
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:11,839
at the point in my life where i was at

856
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:14,560
things were brought to me at a certain

857
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:15,040
time

858
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,000
to where the understanding was i could

859
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:20,159
understand and learn a lot quicker this

860
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:20,960
way

861
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,079
and you know that's a different story

862
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,320
i can maybe after i get over get through

863
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:28,320
these this list i can maybe go over some

864
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:29,599
details later

865
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:33,200
but anyway so bottom line is

866
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,720
go do what you need to do and and get

867
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:38,639
your own life in order the way you want

868
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:41,119
to be if you truly are desiring contact

869
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:42,560
because

870
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:46,159
here i am i've literally moved

871
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,839
and financially invested in believing

872
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,560
in this understanding of i want to have

873
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,800
contact but if it requires for me to

874
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:56,480
truly be right here

875
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:59,359
and and everything sorted out at least

876
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,480
majority of it

877
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:03,280
i needed to do what i needed to invest

878
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,280
how much money i needed to

879
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:07,680
do i need to move where i need to to

880
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,520
just to to work it out

881
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,599
you know and so i'm basically also

882
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,720
telling you

883
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,640
if there's something you can act on

884
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:16,800
please do

885
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,230
so the other one the fourth

886
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,880
fourth one is basically dreams and the

887
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:34,240
way

888
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,920
dreams comes in is that when you worked

889
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:38,720
out enough

890
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:42,000
of your own um of your own blockage

891
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:44,079
whatever needs to get done

892
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:47,280
when you are in that mode to understand

893
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,040
well i can't call aliens

894
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:54,320
you know um there's you know seti has

895
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,160
been trying to send a signal

896
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,200
for years and you know it's they're not

897
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:01,440
as far as i know not receiving anything

898
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:03,440
and um

899
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:06,960
in my personal experience i you know

900
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:10,000
don't think they ever will because it's

901
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:11,280
very inefficient way

902
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,079
to communicate you know and according to

903
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,079
my understanding you know and it's

904
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:19,200
it's it's a lot easier to

905
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,240
basically use you know use these

906
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:24,400
i guess follicle better word word

907
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:25,520
telepathy

908
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,119
and you can basically

909
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:31,119
even though you're not quite sure how

910
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:32,560
telepathy works

911
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:35,440
you don't have to the point is the the

912
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:36,000
different

913
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:39,040
these beings they

914
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:43,440
understand it and they a lot of times

915
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,359
it's a lot easier for them to

916
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:46,640
communicate with you

917
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:50,160
through your dreams because when we're

918
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:50,800
physical

919
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:53,599
and awake like i am now there's a lot to

920
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:54,640
overcome

921
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:58,240
because the body has has a lot

922
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,240
that basically has to be overcome

923
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,160
it's designed to function in on this

924
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:06,640
plane in a certain way

925
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:10,480
and so you have comparable tolerances

926
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:13,599
you know to heat and cold um you know

927
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,079
different energies electricity

928
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,160
um all these things that are that are

929
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,240
out there you know you're limited

930
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:22,320
and your body is designed to basically

931
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:23,440
keep you here

932
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:26,720
it's kind of like um bashar often use

933
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:28,960
this example a scuba diving suit

934
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:31,280
you know it's like you can be on land

935
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:33,040
and be like i don't need scuba diving

936
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,000
suit and then you're

937
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:36,400
you know get in the water and you know

938
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:37,359
um

939
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,920
you quickly realize why you need one and

940
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,800
so

941
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:42,640
same thing with with this it's like

942
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:43,920
there's a lot

943
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:46,960
that physically is very difficult

944
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:49,599
for us from our point of view to do

945
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,400
physically

946
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,640
so it's a lot easier to allow yourself

947
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:54,480
to

948
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,560
while you're while before you're going

949
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:58,320
to sleep and to just

950
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,440
you know allow the imagination to flow

951
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,839
you know don't don't push it but just

952
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,520
allow it to

953
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,680
whatever comes to mind fine you know

954
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,000
it's like oh i forgot to

955
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,960
you know turn off my computer at work

956
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,440
you know or something or

957
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,520
so and so uh asked me to go to lunch

958
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:19,200
tomorrow you know okay i'll keep that in

959
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:20,400
mind you know there's all these

960
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:23,359
daily things that go by but there there

961
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,760
can

962
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,680
and it is possible for you to eventually

963
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,079
to just get to a point to where

964
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:30,079
you're not asleep but you also then

965
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:32,160
finally at peace where your mind has

966
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:33,760
finished processing what it needs to

967
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:36,560
process and it's between that time

968
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:39,359
is that certain imagery and certain

969
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,079
feelings

970
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:42,720
can can come to you and overcome you you

971
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:43,440
know and

972
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:46,320
those are the ones that you can then um

973
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,800
you know

974
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:48,800
look at and analyze because i remember

975
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,320
the first time it happened to me

976
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:52,960
i mean the second it occurred you know

977
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,880
when your thoughts are your thoughts

978
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,640
and when certain thoughts are not your

979
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,000
thoughts you know

980
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,240
there's just it's there's no mistake

981
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:01,680
about it there's no

982
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,440
well did you maybe imagine it did you

983
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:05,440
this no it was a distinct

984
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:09,440
difference in in the way it it felt

985
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:12,320
that something else is basically kind of

986
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:12,800
going

987
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:16,560
hey hello hello hey you know and

988
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,079
so by then going to sleep

989
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:23,200
um just obviously beyond that then you

990
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:24,800
have no other controller than to just

991
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,440
let the

992
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:27,680
body shut down but pay attention to your

993
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:28,640
dreams

994
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:34,720
going to be telling you certain stuff

995
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,200
that

996
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,960
when you wake up i suggest write them

997
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:38,640
down or maybe record them so

998
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:41,760
you can listen to it later to worm

999
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:44,480
there will be certain symbols symbols

1000
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:44,960
and

1001
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:48,160
certain um feelings that will be

1002
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:49,440
accompanied with it

1003
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:51,200
that then will give you the next

1004
00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:52,720
instruction to

1005
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:55,839
continue the the work on yourself you

1006
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:57,520
know start with your beliefs then work

1007
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,320
with this

1008
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,880
to then eventually to where you can

1009
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:01,920
physically

1010
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,119
have a contact and basically be

1011
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,520
prepared as much as you possibly can you

1012
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:09,599
know without you losing your

1013
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,880
because um and that process i don't know

1014
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:13,839
how long it takes

1015
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:16,240
because i know for me it took years you

1016
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:16,880
know and

1017
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:20,000
what i mean years and

1018
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:24,079
five six years you know to just um

1019
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,200
you know tirelessly just constantly um

1020
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:30,000
be at it you know and and and have no

1021
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:30,960
other purpose

1022
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:34,160
in your life to just you know okay

1023
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,920
that's my next step i need to lay down

1024
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:37,440
you to do this and just

1025
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,079
relax relax relax and a lot of times i

1026
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,920
mean a lot of that time is wasted too

1027
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:43,680
because i was trying to force it

1028
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,800
i was like i'm going to get to the

1029
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,560
bottom of it the same way that i

1030
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,000
initially when i was 15

1031
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,680
started out with this going i'm going to

1032
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,920
do research i'm going to read every book

1033
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,520
every document there is and i'm going to

1034
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:55,119
get to the bottom of this

1035
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,000
and when you do that you're you have a

1036
00:41:01,109 --> 00:41:00,079
certain mindset that something has to be

1037
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,119
a certain way

1038
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,119
and that creates a lot of problems

1039
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:05,280
because then you are

1040
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,720
basically um forcing something to work

1041
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:10,800
in a certain way when that's not how it

1042
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,280
works

1043
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,359
like you're convinced it is instead of

1044
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,599
just allowing it to be for what it is

1045
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:17,920
and then let the journey take you where

1046
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,400
you need to be taken

1047
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,880
and then of course the fifth one is the

1048
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:24,800
official contact which i believe

1049
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:28,079
then maybe between now

1050
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,670
might work itself out in the united

1051
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,000
states and maybe worldwide

1052
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,240
because we're kind of going through as a

1053
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:41,760
as a

1054
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,880
a country and as earth on the planet

1055
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:47,040
going through all the stuff that's been

1056
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:48,560
within you know

1057
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:52,160
so now think of that as governments and

1058
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,520
hidden things

1059
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,760
and governments and people then don't

1060
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:56,880
mean as well

1061
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,359
you know for them to finally be called

1062
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:01,200
out to be out in the open

1063
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:04,800
you know and that would take quite a bit

1064
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:07,280
and then maybe another five to ten years

1065
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,319
after that

1066
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:10,400
and don't take my word for it until

1067
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,359
finally

1068
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,680
the world is ready to just kind of come

1069
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,400
to an understanding to to where okay we

1070
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,240
can make contact without

1071
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:21,119
uh everything halting on the planet and

1072
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,400
and basically

1073
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:25,359
uh to our detriment because when you

1074
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,400
have too many things

1075
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,560
uh disrupting everything then you know

1076
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,800
there's food supply lines

1077
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,880
water filtration systems that still need

1078
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,280
to be working electricity all these

1079
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:37,119
things as we understand it

1080
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,319
you know and there's always my desire

1081
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:42,160
and hope that

1082
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:45,760
a lot of these different things that are

1083
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:48,319
kind of on the on and the peripherally

1084
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,800
you know

1085
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,359
out there basically some talks about

1086
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,880
hidden technology that's already

1087
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:54,640
existing and all of that

1088
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,240
i'm not i'm not too sure how much

1089
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:00,640
of that will you know really come out

1090
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,839
anytime soon

1091
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:04,000
you know i don't um you know having

1092
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:05,440
experienced what i experienced

1093
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:07,040
obviously then i have to say that

1094
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,480
everything is possible

1095
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:11,520
but me personally i do not know so i

1096
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,880
can't tell you that

1097
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,560
you know just because i read something

1098
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,640
on on the internet that i can say

1099
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,560
well so-and-so said so so therefore it

1100
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,640
must be there i'm sure it probably is

1101
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,400
there but i can't put all

1102
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,319
you know all my money on the table

1103
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,400
saying i believe that

1104
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,800
you know it's like it goes right back to

1105
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:30,400
i need to have my own personal

1106
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,119
experience

1107
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,280
about this so that i can discern for

1108
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,200
myself break it down work on it

1109
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:36,960
understand it before i can

1110
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:39,760
you know speak about it or even convey

1111
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,880
to somebody else

1112
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,640
sure i'll tell a friend it was like hey

1113
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,240
did you read this that they might have

1114
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,400
some technology that we don't know about

1115
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,400
but it's just talk between buddies you

1116
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:50,880
know it's not something that

1117
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:53,520
you know i would like i said uh put some

1118
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:54,079
money on

1119
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,520
it so anyway um if there's

1120
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,599
anything else that you would like me to

1121
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:00,880
go to

1122
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,280
to go through and in details uh please

1123
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:05,119
let me know

1124
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:08,880
uh let me see

1125
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,319
i'm gonna go to questions

1126
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:14,240
if you have any i'm just gonna back up a

1127
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,520
little bit to see if there's any

1128
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:17,040
questions from before

1129
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:20,800
but otherwise please remember to use

1130
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:24,000
the three stars in in your comment

1131
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:25,119
before you put

1132
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:33,510
and just a question of yours might help

1133
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,400
help me jot different aspects of our

1134
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:38,800
memory that i can talk about because

1135
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,880
i can't talk about everything at one

1136
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,119
time i mean this is years of

1137
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,599
of a whole bunch of stuff happening and

1138
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:47,520
i always try to give you the general big

1139
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,400
picture

1140
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:51,119
but only when somebody uh you know kind

1141
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,599
of

1142
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,359
asked me the right question can i go

1143
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,800
into that picture and go into the

1144
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:55,920
details to

1145
00:45:02,829 --> 00:44:59,359
to give you more if i know if i don't

1146
00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:39,349
know

1147
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,349
okay we have one question i could i'm

1148
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:42,960
sorry if i missed somebody earlier so

1149
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:43,280
this

1150
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:48,319
is from uh bradley quartet

1151
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:52,160
kurtzen yeah bradley kurtzen um

1152
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:55,200
how did this all start for you in this

1153
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:56,400
subject

1154
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:00,640
well the um i was 11 years old

1155
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:03,359
when we we lived in germany at that time

1156
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:04,400
and

1157
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:07,760
i just went to bed

1158
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:10,400
you know like i usually do and there was

1159
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,280
something strange

1160
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:13,280
to say in these terms there was that

1161
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,400
time

1162
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:16,720
period was like this really weird one

1163
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,440
where i

1164
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:19,839
loved to go to sleep you know it wasn't

1165
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:20,480
like

1166
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,319
hurry up let's you know when when is

1167
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,480
bedtime so i can go to sleep

1168
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,200
and um it had to be dark and had to be

1169
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:34,000
when everybody was asleep you know

1170
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,079
and i was i would always just when i

1171
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,079
closed my eyes

1172
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:41,040
i would always just see um i don't know

1173
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:42,000
if you if you guys

1174
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,760
that have max that ever seen that

1175
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,839
screensaver where you have this

1176
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:48,240
one point that has all these tentacles

1177
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:49,520
coming out and there's

1178
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:51,839
or in different rainbow colors but this

1179
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:53,760
particular one every time i close my

1180
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,160
eyes

1181
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,960
i would see it as just a white and i

1182
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:57,839
couldn't understand

1183
00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:00,800
why i would still see color even though

1184
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,160
my eyes were closed

1185
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:05,440
now of course there's some some tricks

1186
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,720
your brain can play on you

1187
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,480
and and whatnot but for the sake of the

1188
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:10,720
story that's what was

1189
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,200
occurring on a regular basis and then

1190
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,680
finally i felt

1191
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,599
that whatever that was happening was you

1192
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,440
know each night it was always closer and

1193
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:21,440
closer and closer to where

1194
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:24,079
one time than the that light or one of

1195
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:25,920
the tentacles basically

1196
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:29,040
overcame me and basically just

1197
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:32,400
all i could see is white and

1198
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,599
that whiteness uh just turned

1199
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:37,839
slowly into an environment to where i

1200
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:38,720
noticed i was

1201
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:42,160
more of a jungle area and quickly i

1202
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:43,599
noticed that there was

1203
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:46,960
somebody laying down on the table and

1204
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,640
there were these short like maybe two to

1205
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,400
three feet hooded beings

1206
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,480
that were around around it but that

1207
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,160
table was not

1208
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:58,559
for what i perceived it was a jungle

1209
00:48:03,270 --> 00:47:59,440
with a

1210
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,280
like a stone altar and that

1211
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:05,119
someone was laying there i often

1212
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:06,800
pondered about whether or not that

1213
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,680
that was me in one way or another but i

1214
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:11,839
can't tell you for certain

1215
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,640
because uh anyway so as i was and i

1216
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:16,079
could concentrate on this on this

1217
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:17,599
environment very easily

1218
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:20,000
and i could see it's very lush like a

1219
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,960
forest and or

1220
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,040
rain forest would be but every time i

1221
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:25,040
try to focus on what was going on there

1222
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:25,680
it was

1223
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,920
very blurry and i couldn't couldn't see

1224
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:29,040
what was going on

1225
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:32,720
so finally as i was kind of just

1226
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,680
hovering around i could just i just

1227
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:37,440
forced it to just like i really want to

1228
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:38,960
focus you know when you squint to

1229
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,599
really try to see what's going on and i

1230
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,119
tried really hard and

1231
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:45,839
off the sudden the picture was clear and

1232
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,559
i could see

1233
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:49,680
more i still couldn't see what who was

1234
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:50,480
laying there

1235
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,800
but the second i be you know it became

1236
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,800
more clear to me going yes now i can

1237
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,760
you know inspect this more in detail one

1238
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,200
of the beings there just

1239
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,200
turned like this immediately in my

1240
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:03,359
direction and i could tell that it had

1241
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:03,920
like a

1242
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,960
frog like face and in the short

1243
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:09,200
it had a very short legs it immediately

1244
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:10,640
kind of started to

1245
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:14,240
to um um it's more like a short person

1246
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:15,520
would try to run

1247
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,400
or make long strides it was running like

1248
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:20,160
that towards me real fast

1249
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:22,960
and all it did is take a it had a like a

1250
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:23,440
king

1251
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:26,319
scepter in his hand and just hit me

1252
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,359
right here

1253
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,440
and i immediately got out you know got

1254
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:31,119
up and i was in my bed

1255
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,160
it was dark you know and i didn't

1256
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:35,839
understand what was going on

1257
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:38,640
so that was like the first time that

1258
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:39,520
that

1259
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,960
was gnawing on me you know over the

1260
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:46,000
years i

1261
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,160
moved on with my life but what what was

1262
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:50,640
that it was very vivid very real

1263
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:53,520
you know and um not very much like a

1264
00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:54,800
dream because i've had

1265
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:57,920
plenty of dreams you know and up to that

1266
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:58,400
point

1267
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:01,200
this was entirely different and then

1268
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,400
finally when

1269
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,880
we uh worked out to be able to immigrate

1270
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:06,400
to the united states

1271
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:10,319
um i was actually

1272
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,520
i was 15 and there was a place right

1273
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,960
across the street where i initially

1274
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:15,839
started out

1275
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:18,319
to learn about computers and all these

1276
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,200
different things

1277
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:21,359
that you know had my friends that became

1278
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,319
my mentors

1279
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,720
that taught me about computers and

1280
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:26,079
programming and things like that

1281
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,839
i'm into today well it when i was 15 i

1282
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,599
was trying to cross the street

1283
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,920
from that place over to my house just

1284
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:35,920
every normal average day

1285
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,280
and just for no no apparent reason

1286
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,520
and just really weird to say i just

1287
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:43,760
immediately stopped i just looked up

1288
00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:46,400
you know and i don't know why and just

1289
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:47,119
like

1290
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,640
why don't we spend more time trying to

1291
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:54,400
figure out if there's other beings

1292
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:57,839
on other planets it was simply that

1293
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,760
that straight forward it wasn't

1294
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,359
the only thing weird about it is that

1295
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,680
that feeling overcame me at that time

1296
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,599
now i know better but at that time it

1297
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,520
made any sense you know i mean

1298
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:11,760
why would i do that and so that kind of

1299
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,880
got me going to

1300
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:15,119
start with books and start out and

1301
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:26,309
sorry i'm i'm sorry if i'm quiet i'm

1302
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:27,839
just kind of

1303
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:31,280
looking through to see

1304
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,109
this one for this question next question

1305
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:43,040
down is from hazel blair

1306
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,400
um she says adnan has your life been

1307
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:48,800
bettered since your experiences are you

1308
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:50,800
happy to have this knowledge

1309
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,000
i i do

1310
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,640
i do i do because it it felt like i'm

1311
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,079
i'm fulfilling

1312
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,359
a something in my life that

1313
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,599
that i couldn't quite put my finger on

1314
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:05,680
it it's almost no different than a

1315
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:06,559
person

1316
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,430
they love to be a carpenter you know or

1317
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,119
want to be a lawyer or anything like

1318
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:17,359
that and they have that goal there

1319
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:19,440
and then they they strive towards it to

1320
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:20,559
finally achieve it

1321
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:22,480
you know and it's and it feels good and

1322
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:24,960
it's satisfying and it almost seems like

1323
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:28,079
that that was my little

1324
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,680
thing little inkling that kept

1325
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,839
constantly pushing me in that direction

1326
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,440
you know it's kind of weird because i

1327
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,960
couldn't talk to people especially

1328
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:36,400
during that time i mean late

1329
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:39,520
late 90s early 2000s it wasn't

1330
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:42,640
really this quiet you know quiet

1331
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,800
accepted you know accepted it was still

1332
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:47,119
within the same realm as ghosts if they

1333
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:47,839
said

1334
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,440
ghosts everybody's like

1335
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:53,520
he believes in ghosts you know it was

1336
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:56,240
this shameful thing to have to deal with

1337
00:53:02,790 --> 00:52:59,359
but at one point obviously in my life

1338
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,800
where i was when i turned 25 i simply

1339
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,160
said

1340
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,319
i either go down this path

1341
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:08,160
wholeheartedly and figure out what this

1342
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:11,599
is you know openly meaning and not hide

1343
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:12,480
it anymore

1344
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:15,920
or you know i i shut up forever now and

1345
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,319
just

1346
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,720
be you know one of the regular people on

1347
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,160
the planet you know

1348
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:23,119
and so i made that choice and so anytime

1349
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,480
somebody asked me

1350
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:26,160
you know from that moment on anytime i

1351
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:27,760
was taking off to go different

1352
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,680
conferences to do interviews my boss

1353
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,960
would say where you going is like i'm

1354
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:32,480
going to ufo conference

1355
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,680
oh really okay well have fun

1356
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:38,160
you know and then co-workers would start

1357
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,119
making fun of me

1358
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,880
you know they would draw a little

1359
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,040
picture on on a post-it note

1360
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:46,319
and then expand one of the the scotch

1361
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:46,800
tapes

1362
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,599
and then stick one of the ufos to it and

1363
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:51,359
they're like look you're full caught on

1364
00:53:54,309 --> 00:53:51,839
tape

1365
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:54,319
you know and just silly stuff like that

1366
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,319
but at the same time

1367
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,119
i knew that i was doing this for myself

1368
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:01,359
so it wasn't important to me at all

1369
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:03,280
if they understood or if they believed

1370
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:04,480
me you know it was

1371
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:07,920
i could not care less you know it's like

1372
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,720
okay you don't care fine i'm not here to

1373
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,760
change your mind

1374
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,599
you know but there were plenty of other

1375
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,599
people that would then

1376
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:17,839
um come to you and then now of the

1377
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:19,599
sudden you become this beacon to where

1378
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:20,559
they can

1379
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,079
talk to you because they're not open

1380
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:27,119
about it but you are and i remember i

1381
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:28,640
was sitting at the desk just like this

1382
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,119
and i was

1383
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:31,520
staring at the monitor and i just see

1384
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:32,960
two people kind of pull up

1385
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,400
and i look up and it's the it guy for

1386
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,079
the company i worked for at that time

1387
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:40,240
and uh my

1388
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:43,520
uh boss or my director and i look up

1389
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:45,200
and i just keep like you know all these

1390
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,559
things go through my head like

1391
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:48,799
what did i do now you know i'm trying to

1392
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:49,839
figure out like

1393
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:53,040
did i eff up something you know and

1394
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,480
all these things that go through my head

1395
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,400
just trying to see why are they here

1396
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,160
and the first thing out of his mouth is

1397
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:00,799
like so i hear you into ufos

1398
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,839
i say yes i am you know

1399
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,520
and then he starts telling me his story

1400
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,440
and then she stood there just to hear it

1401
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:09,200
out and she was interested to just hear

1402
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:09,680
our

1403
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,480
conversation it's almost like this this

1404
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,240
veil was lifted like hey

1405
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,400
it's okay talk about you know ghosts and

1406
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:18,000
aliens and everything else and

1407
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,760
you want to specifically find a person

1408
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:21,440
there's adnan right there

1409
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,359
and so you know it it helps kind of just

1410
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:27,920
to know you know others that you're into

1411
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:28,480
that

1412
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:31,280
you know and i never was a proponent for

1413
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,280
try to get people to understand or try

1414
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,400
to get people to

1415
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:37,040
you know um to believe me it's only when

1416
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,319
they wanted to know

1417
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,760
it's only when they were really

1418
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,440
interested and then you know we're

1419
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,760
seeking out to speak to me then i'll be

1420
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:45,359
telling them all i can possibly can

1421
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:47,040
that's relevant to them

1422
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:48,000
because sometimes some of the

1423
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:50,319
information it's stuff i learned better

1424
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,440
20 years later

1425
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:53,760
you know and has a lot more i guess more

1426
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,480
advanced

1427
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,200
understanding you know as opposed to

1428
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:59,119
where they are so no point of me telling

1429
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:00,720
them about it so i have to kind of

1430
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:02,880
think back of where i was at that stage

1431
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:06,000
and then just give him help that way

1432
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,000
but yes overall it has i mean

1433
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:13,119
it's i had entirely different path i

1434
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,680
wasn't

1435
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:16,000
supposed to do any of this my path was

1436
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:17,280
to fix computers

1437
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:20,079
and maybe do websites on the side and

1438
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,359
just kind of

1439
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,160
make a living that way and just have fun

1440
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:25,760
and hang out with friends and just live

1441
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,720
my life

1442
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:28,480
but after these different experiences

1443
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:30,000
and the eventual download

1444
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:33,200
that i received it turned everything

1445
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,200
into this and there was no accident

1446
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:36,720
because

1447
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:40,720
it that that download basically also um

1448
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:43,440
helped me see that there was no accident

1449
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:44,640
that i

1450
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,520
was living at a place where right across

1451
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:49,200
the street i was able to learn about

1452
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,000
computers

1453
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,480
there was no accident that because of

1454
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,640
the way my dad is he's kind of like the

1455
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:56,640
jack of all trades so i kind of picked

1456
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:57,760
that up from him

1457
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,640
to where there's no aspect of anything

1458
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:02,160
here that i don't know how to do by

1459
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:02,880
myself

1460
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:05,359
so that i could create my own structure

1461
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:06,079
and then go

1462
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:09,119
about making let's say ufo hub without

1463
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:10,880
needing to rely on someone else to help

1464
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,079
me out

1465
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:14,160
at least when it comes to the physical

1466
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:15,280
doing part i could

1467
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,200
at that time i could do the website

1468
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:18,480
myself i could

1469
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,559
figure out the recording myself i can

1470
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:21,760
make a server

1471
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:24,720
or a computer that can stream myself and

1472
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:46,309
uh this other question is from hayes so

1473
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:47,280
blair again

1474
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:50,720
and the question is

1475
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:53,680
are your dreams a link to contact and

1476
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,079
can

1477
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:57,200
we encourage this

1478
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:00,319
i do hope so i have had some nice dreams

1479
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,839
regarding this subject when you are

1480
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:05,200
truly

1481
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:08,319
desiring contact

1482
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,559
dreams are definitely one of the obvious

1483
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:12,559
as i said one of the stages that you can

1484
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:13,760
use for your advantage

1485
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,480
because when you have a deep desire

1486
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:20,640
about something you know it's not an

1487
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:22,319
accident you know whether it's something

1488
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:24,079
for your personal life to become a

1489
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:25,680
painter or an actor or something like

1490
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:26,079
that

1491
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,000
and then you go about to follow it when

1492
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,240
you have a desire to make contact

1493
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,160
you know and then start learning about

1494
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,079
what you can possibly do

1495
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:36,960
that is a certain frequency this is uh

1496
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,760
certain

1497
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:40,480
energy that it's broadcasted out from

1498
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:40,960
you

1499
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:51,119
picked up by the agreements by the

1500
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:52,640
different beings that you had made

1501
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:53,760
agreements with

1502
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:56,319
to have certain experiences at the time

1503
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,680
that that is right

1504
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:59,520
and that is kind of like a beacon to

1505
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,799
them to say okay

1506
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:02,319
they're finally at the stage where you

1507
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,000
needed to be you know for some

1508
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:06,720
people is um let me go to school let me

1509
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:07,760
have a family

1510
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:10,559
let me have a good job and you know then

1511
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:11,280
after that

1512
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:13,040
i'll have all this time to deal with

1513
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:15,040
that and most of them they have this

1514
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:16,799
desire to go about it next you know

1515
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:17,440
they're having

1516
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,839
you know experiences on their own you

1517
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:20,880
know and for others

1518
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,599
happens seemingly out of their control

1519
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:25,280
to where it just occurs to you you don't

1520
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:26,079
know why

1521
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,040
but it just happens and you kind of have

1522
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:31,119
to deal with it like a fish out of water

1523
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:32,960
trying to figure out what's going on

1524
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:35,359
you know and but then again that's

1525
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:51,670
this next question is from

1526
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:55,760
uh mom do lorien did you ever have an

1527
01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:58,880
initiation dream where you were made

1528
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:01,440
aware of the level

1529
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:09,829
well i i personally have never of course

1530
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:10,640
there are like

1531
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:12,640
everything i describe sometimes i

1532
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:14,559
describe it in levels because that's how

1533
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:15,040
mind

1534
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:20,160
think of everything or the energies or

1535
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:22,000
the consciousness itself kind of like an

1536
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:22,720
ocean

1537
01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:24,880
sure you know we there's different

1538
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:26,319
levels and depth and

1539
01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:30,000
pressure when we think of ocean but

1540
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,839
think of an ocean that doesn't have an

1541
01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:33,680
up or down you know

1542
01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:37,839
and no left and right how do you

1543
01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:40,799
how do you measure different changes

1544
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,359
right

1545
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,680
and the only way that i experience it is

1546
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,200
through different energies

1547
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:47,359
you know they're not better or worse

1548
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,319
it's just

1549
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:50,319
different occurrences happen in

1550
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,839
different levels so when we're talking

1551
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:53,440
about also dreams and

1552
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:56,079
initiating initiations as you mentioned

1553
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:57,920
no i've personally not

1554
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,160
experienced that i just knew that

1555
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,319
certain dreams had certain messages that

1556
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:04,000
i needed to pay attention to

1557
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,000
you know needed to try to think about

1558
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:08,000
more you know figure out what it what it

1559
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,559
means

1560
01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:10,720
and and kind of not just think oh that's

1561
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:25,040
just a dream let's forget about it

1562
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:34,470
sorry i'm just i'm reading some more

1563
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:37,200
trying to figure out

1564
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,760
where else or else has another question

1565
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:56,160
this one this question is um sorry it

1566
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,760
sometimes takes me a while to scan

1567
01:02:02,470 --> 01:01:59,520
through to make sure that it's

1568
01:02:04,829 --> 01:02:02,480
actually meant as a question this one

1569
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:04,839
again is from bradley uh

1570
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:07,599
um kurtzen

1571
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:10,640
um it says adnan

1572
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:13,680
i haven't had any direct experiences but

1573
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,920
this subject has been in my life since

1574
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:17,039
school days

1575
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:20,559
to the point of humiliation still

1576
01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:23,280
not sure why i followed this subject any

1577
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:24,319
advice

1578
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,829
when we you know a lot of times i notice

1579
01:02:37,510 --> 01:02:35,520
you know when i you still used to live

1580
01:02:39,029 --> 01:02:37,520
in san luis a lot of people would go to

1581
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:39,039
these different meetings

1582
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:40,720
and then they'll always talk about the

1583
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:43,440
latest documentaries and latest movies

1584
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,440
and the latest book and all these other

1585
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:47,280
things and that is all great nothing

1586
01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:49,280
against that whatsoever

1587
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:50,880
but you have to kind of discern for

1588
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:53,440
yourself uh are you truly

1589
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:56,799
seeking out to understand how you can

1590
01:03:01,029 --> 01:03:00,000
you know better approach or make changes

1591
01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:01,039
in your life

1592
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,400
or are you just using all these

1593
01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:03,920
different things for entertainment

1594
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:04,960
purposes

1595
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:07,280
because i found a lot of times and if

1596
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:09,200
people really dig deep down

1597
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:12,319
they they like that uh that at the

1598
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:13,760
entertainment value

1599
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:15,760
no different than a good movie or a good

1600
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:17,119
book to to read

1601
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:20,640
and to them it's the next next abduction

1602
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:23,680
story the next contact he the next story

1603
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:24,480
hoping

1604
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,799
to hear the same thing in a different

1605
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,319
more exciting ways

1606
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,319
and if they don't then you know

1607
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:32,240
sometimes these disparaging comments are

1608
01:03:35,349 --> 01:03:33,280
made about

1609
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:35,359
oh well you have nothing new to say you

1610
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,280
know it's like uh it's same old

1611
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:39,200
rehash stuff we heard this before and

1612
01:03:43,349 --> 01:03:41,039
things like that and it's just

1613
01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:43,359
in my opinion people that that just

1614
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:45,039
simply are using it for entertainment

1615
01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:46,400
purposes so if you're not

1616
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:49,039
getting new entertainment you know then

1617
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:50,000
you you

1618
01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:51,520
i don't know what you expect to get out

1619
01:03:56,829 --> 01:03:53,359
of it you know um

1620
01:04:01,829 --> 01:03:56,839
the because you know

1621
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:01,839
the um i've often used the example

1622
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:06,880
um as an analogy of love and let's say

1623
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:09,760
before you are in love and you you you

1624
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:11,599
find that special someone and someone

1625
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,280
who you really care for and hopefully

1626
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:15,599
the other person cares for you as well

1627
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:18,640
before that happens you make yourself

1628
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:20,240
believe that it's everything you know

1629
01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:21,119
that it's the

1630
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:24,160
i need to um you know iron shirt i need

1631
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:26,000
to go to a gym i need to work

1632
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,799
out where the new shoes smell good

1633
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:30,400
everything you can to

1634
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:33,920
you know attract someone or the opposite

1635
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:36,960
sex if you you know that

1636
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:39,119
because that's what your desire is and

1637
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:40,720
so the

1638
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,920
whole idea of that is that you have this

1639
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:45,359
idea that that's what you need to be

1640
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:45,920
doing

1641
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:48,799
right and the next thing you know when

1642
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,359
it does

1643
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:51,520
occur to you and to a lot of us it just

1644
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:53,119
happens out of nowhere where you just

1645
01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:54,799
meet a person to where

1646
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:58,079
none of that matters not not one single

1647
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:59,440
thing of that matter there is a

1648
01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:00,559
connection you make with

1649
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:02,400
the other person to where they don't

1650
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:03,680
care about any of that

1651
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,440
you know on their end

1652
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,599
you simply care for who they are and

1653
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:11,520
want to grow your life together with

1654
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:12,000
them

1655
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:15,359
and so it's a very similar way in this

1656
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:16,319
way you know you can

1657
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,960
go out and read the books you can go to

1658
01:05:21,829 --> 01:05:20,240
these different meetings trying to

1659
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:21,839
understand ufos you can watch

1660
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:23,440
documentaries you can listen to

1661
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:24,400
scientists

1662
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,960
all these other things you know but at

1663
01:05:30,950 --> 01:05:28,160
the end of the day

1664
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:30,960
i know that if it's not in your path to

1665
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:31,520
just

1666
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,520
have an experience out of the blue

1667
01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:35,599
without you having to do any hard work

1668
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:36,480
for it

1669
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:39,440
you know um it's it's challenging you

1670
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:39,839
know

1671
01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:54,559
gonna be you

1672
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:56,799
and not many people around and if you're

1673
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:57,920
really into that

1674
01:06:02,069 --> 01:06:00,160
into that subject you know and you're

1675
01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:02,079
not really that much into the spiritual

1676
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:02,480
stuff

1677
01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:05,039
like meditating or you know listening to

1678
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:06,880
your dreams and all these other things

1679
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:09,520
then then go out for on walks and then

1680
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:10,240
simply just

1681
01:06:13,589 --> 01:06:12,240
just relax and have a good time with no

1682
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,599
expectations just

1683
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:15,680
you know if you have a dog to walk walk

1684
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:16,960
your dog there

1685
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,079
you know and simply put yourself

1686
01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:22,640
in a position to where fine you're

1687
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:23,839
saying you're ready

1688
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:26,559
you know but you put in the condition of

1689
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:28,640
that this has to be more of a physical

1690
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:30,640
experience to give you that jolt

1691
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:34,000
so you can go to the next level and so

1692
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:36,000
sometimes certain things could occur

1693
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:37,920
that way you know not guaranteeing that

1694
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,559
it will

1695
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,640
but i'm just trying to you know come up

1696
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:42,400
with some kind of analogies or examples

1697
01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:43,440
to give you that

1698
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:45,440
you can take instead of it just being

1699
01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:47,839
this obsession that you

1700
01:07:03,910 --> 01:06:49,760
constantly have within you but it's

1701
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:07,349
let's see here yeah if you have any

1702
01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:08,319
other questions

1703
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:10,880
that i could i'm none of them are

1704
01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:13,039
popping up

1705
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,109
because i have to i have to kind of look

1706
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:29,520
through to see

1707
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,589
um the

1708
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:44,950
the the the challenging part is mainly

1709
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,589
for example talking about a physical

1710
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:49,520
physical experience right

1711
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:52,160
so i've been going through i've often

1712
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:53,440
told about the story

1713
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:54,960
you know but i'm just going to tell it

1714
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:56,240
again in short because there's some

1715
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:57,599
other points i want to make

1716
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:00,960
so here i was um

1717
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,440
meditating and doing these binaural

1718
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:05,200
beats where you put over your ears and

1719
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:07,039
it's these beats that have

1720
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:09,280
different frequencies and they you

1721
01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:10,160
basically uh

1722
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:12,559
helps you to kind of just quiet your

1723
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:13,680
mind to

1724
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:16,319
then um and i actually only achieved it

1725
01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:18,480
one time and literally almost over a

1726
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:19,600
year of trying

1727
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:22,400
to where i can quiet down my mind enough

1728
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:23,279
to where

1729
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:26,880
i fell asleep i could feel my body just

1730
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:29,279
kind of going into sleep and i was awake

1731
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:30,239
and it was doing

1732
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:32,880
it was weird you know that that you know

1733
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,239
when that happened but

1734
01:08:37,990 --> 01:08:36,480
using the binaural beats it happened you

1735
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:38,000
know and i always heard

1736
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:40,719
about that that was possible but only

1737
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:41,440
until

1738
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:43,679
that occurred to me you know was it just

1739
01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:45,440
always you know this

1740
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:47,359
great idea to know about but it was the

1741
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:49,759
experience of having gone through that

1742
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:52,719
that that told me that i'm on the right

1743
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:53,199
track

1744
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:55,600
there's more there it's possible it is

1745
01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:56,560
possible to have

1746
01:09:03,349 --> 01:08:59,920
more experiences and so you know i

1747
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:03,359
worked you know towards

1748
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:05,679
towards more and more uh things that i

1749
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:07,199
could possibly do to eventually have

1750
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:10,159
this physical contact but

1751
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,319
what i want to talk about regarding

1752
01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:14,239
physical contact itself

1753
01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:16,159
so when i had the occurrence over the

1754
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:17,839
house where i lived in robertsville

1755
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:19,600
missouri at that time when there were

1756
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,040
these two red orbs

1757
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:23,040
uh first one and then second one

1758
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,640
appearing out of nowhere

1759
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:26,640
over my house and that's when i kind of

1760
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:32,829
it is still very challenging to

1761
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:35,440
physically trying to deal with their

1762
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:36,319
with their energy

1763
01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:38,159
you know even even as willing as i was

1764
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:39,679
to just sit back and like all right

1765
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:42,000
whatever needs to happen let it happen

1766
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:44,239
i still couldn't help my body just going

1767
01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:45,199
haywire

1768
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:48,799
because it feels like um often

1769
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,199
and i don't recommend anyone doing this

1770
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,199
as i was working on the studio

1771
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:55,679
i did all the wiring myself well you

1772
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,040
know um

1773
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:59,360
it's a bad habit i picked up just from

1774
01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:00,960
my dad you know it's like

1775
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:03,199
110 ain't going to kill you so sometimes

1776
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:04,960
i don't bother switching it off

1777
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:07,440
and so if you don't cross the wires just

1778
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,880
right and don't touch the

1779
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:10,640
wires just right nothing's really going

1780
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:11,920
to happen to you but

1781
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,080
anyway stupid things to do don't do it

1782
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:15,760
not recommending it but

1783
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:18,880
anyway i'm using as an example

1784
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,280
when you touch that wire it you feel

1785
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,280
like a little buzz

1786
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,440
this is like this energy that goes

1787
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:27,199
through you it's almost like you

1788
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:30,719
you you know grab like 50 of them at one

1789
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:31,520
time

1790
01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:34,880
it it locks up your body and it's the

1791
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:36,159
energy that does it

1792
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:39,840
and um it's um

1793
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,800
it's so difficult to tell somebody relax

1794
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:43,440
you know

1795
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:47,280
when your body is just fearing and and

1796
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:48,960
doing everything it can because it

1797
01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:50,960
betrays this different energy

1798
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:53,679
physically as an attack you know no

1799
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:55,280
different than

1800
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:57,280
when you have a cut you go out you know

1801
01:11:01,669 --> 01:10:59,280
you you react to it when you

1802
01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:01,679
you know touch a wire electric wire when

1803
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,159
somebody hits you you you respond to

1804
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:06,080
where your body is telling you hey

1805
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:08,000
there's an impression or a

1806
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:11,280
a thump or some kind of sensing going on

1807
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:12,239
and you have to kind of

1808
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:14,800
look look into the direction of what

1809
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:15,679
just hurt you

1810
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:18,320
you know what what is going on when you

1811
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:19,760
can't physically see that

1812
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:21,440
and you have just simply these

1813
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:22,960
experiences where it's

1814
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:26,400
more um you know

1815
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:28,239
when it's just this energy that you

1816
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:30,400
can't perceive coming from one way or

1817
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:31,840
another because it seems to be coming

1818
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:32,960
from everywhere

1819
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,840
your body kind of uh uh goes into this

1820
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,360
panic mode because it's trying to

1821
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:39,120
protect itself it's trying to understand

1822
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:40,320
what's going on

1823
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:43,440
and it can't using your eyes

1824
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:46,560
there is a like a body consciousness to

1825
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:47,040
your

1826
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:50,000
physical body you know and in a weird

1827
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:52,239
way maybe i can get into that sometime

1828
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:55,679
you know and it can't perceive a threat

1829
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:58,000
but yet there's something there that's

1830
01:12:02,550 --> 01:11:59,920
causing it to just be in this

1831
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:02,560
discomfort and the more these energies

1832
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,360
change the more your body goes into this

1833
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:07,360
uh mode of i'm gonna fix it i'm gonna

1834
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:08,640
fix it i'm gonna fix it and when it

1835
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:10,719
reaches a level where you can't it you

1836
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:11,920
just kind of

1837
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:14,480
check out you know and i've often been

1838
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:15,280
there

1839
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:17,760
on to that level to where i felt if i

1840
01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:19,360
pushed it any further i don't think i

1841
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:20,719
would be sitting here right now

1842
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,719
and what i meant by that what i mean by

1843
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:24,560
that is that

1844
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:27,280
i probably would have um burned out

1845
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:27,920
something

1846
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:31,280
to where

1847
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:33,280
the receptors would not be working

1848
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:35,040
properly anymore and and you would only

1849
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:36,159
perceive me as

1850
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:39,679
a mentally handicapped person you know

1851
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:42,159
and so i always had to um i always had

1852
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:44,080
to kind of watch out and be careful with

1853
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:45,040
that how far

1854
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,400
do i push it because even though i

1855
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:50,000
understood what was going on i kept

1856
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,920
trying to say okay it's fine it's fine

1857
01:12:54,390 --> 01:12:53,520
let's get over this let's get over this

1858
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:54,400
and

1859
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:56,159
you know the more i kept trying to push

1860
01:13:02,950 --> 01:12:59,520
it the more of a difficulty i was having

1861
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:02,960
and so um i would not recommend

1862
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:05,600
doing that if you ever you know if you

1863
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:06,239
ever

1864
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:10,000
um are in this extreme fear scenario

1865
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:12,239
you know it's like if you think you can

1866
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:14,159
manage to calm yourself down please do

1867
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:15,440
so but otherwise you know

1868
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,120
don't don't push it there will be other

1869
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:18,880
times other opportunities

1870
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:21,920
where you can have more chances to to

1871
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,000
get over it it's almost it's no

1872
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:26,640
different than um

1873
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:29,520
when i first moved to the country right

1874
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,880
there was

1875
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:32,480
you know i'm out in the woods so there's

1876
01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:33,920
all kinds of snakes too

1877
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,600
not not a lot but there would be

1878
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:37,199
copperheads king coal

1879
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:40,480
you know king cobras king snakes

1880
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:43,760
um they'll be funny if they were cobras

1881
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,719
in the united states but i doubt it um

1882
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,480
but then again there are pythons in

1883
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:50,480
florida and that are not

1884
01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:52,800
local to to the state but anyway

1885
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,760
different story

1886
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:56,000
what i'm trying to say is one of the

1887
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,880
fears was

1888
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:58,880
i would have almost this debilitating

1889
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:00,159
fear just seeing

1890
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:02,080
one 15 feet away from me and i would

1891
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:03,280
just

1892
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,280
freeze you know like i would it's this

1893
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:07,199
um fight-or-flight

1894
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:10,640
mechanism kicks in you know and so over

1895
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:12,640
over this this period of time you know

1896
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:14,159
did i lived there

1897
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:17,840
all the years i made myself get closer

1898
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:20,719
and closer to each snake that i ever saw

1899
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:23,199
to where i was very close within a foot

1900
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:23,840
or two

1901
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,960
and not you know obviously you know

1902
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,560
i didn't want to interact to him any

1903
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:30,080
closer because i would have you know

1904
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:31,600
probably gotten bitten because i don't

1905
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:33,280
know exactly how to handle them

1906
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:34,560
they probably don't know what the hell

1907
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:37,280
i'm trying to do but the point was

1908
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,920
it was a fear that talking about and a

1909
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:41,520
fear and then trying to figure out what

1910
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:43,120
the belief system is

1911
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:46,480
i grew up in in majority of the times in

1912
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:48,080
city environments even though i was

1913
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,480
camping a lot and doing outdoor stuff

1914
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:52,480
i was never really around you know

1915
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:53,760
things that could be

1916
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:55,520
potentially dangerous like let's say

1917
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:56,800
copperheads right

1918
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:59,600
and so i overcame the experience that

1919
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:00,159
way by

1920
01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:03,440
forcing myself to constantly be

1921
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:06,320
closer and closer and closer and but

1922
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:07,600
unfortunately

1923
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:10,880
that really didn't start until

1924
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:13,040
um when i was first got in the house i

1925
01:15:15,510 --> 01:15:14,960
was trying to clean up this pile of

1926
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:15,520
leaves

1927
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:19,840
felt heavy and there were two snakes two

1928
01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:21,840
copperheads just coiled in it looked

1929
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:22,640
like they were

1930
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:26,000
blinded or something my fear were so

1931
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:26,960
great

1932
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,239
you know that you know i

1933
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:32,800
freaked out immediately and like i found

1934
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,239
a two by four next to me and they

1935
01:15:37,510 --> 01:15:36,080
weren't moving so i took that as an

1936
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:37,520
opportunity and i

1937
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:40,320
bashed their heads in you know because

1938
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,679
the fear was so great

1939
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:43,840
i felt like i needed to do that when

1940
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:46,480
that occurred i i felt like

1941
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:49,679
you know i it was like the i you know

1942
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:52,800
the worst feeling that i've felt in

1943
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:53,440
forever

1944
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:55,520
you know because they didn't do anything

1945
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:58,000
to me but i allowed my fear to overcome

1946
01:16:00,870 --> 01:15:58,480
me

1947
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:00,880
so much that i just killed them and they

1948
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:01,600
were just

1949
01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:04,640
probably um hibernating you know or

1950
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:06,800
whatever they were doing and i just

1951
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,800
you know that really then helped

1952
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,840
jumpstart my

1953
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:12,000
i'm going to overcome this fear and i

1954
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,080
have forced myself each time

1955
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:16,960
you know i mean i even did um you know

1956
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:17,679
that was

1957
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:21,840
something that morally was hurting me

1958
01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:23,199
you know knowing that i just killed

1959
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,239
those two snakes

1960
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,800
you know for really no reason you know i

1961
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:28,320
could have handled that better

1962
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:30,080
you know and i did other silly stuff

1963
01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:31,600
before that but there was no

1964
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:34,000
it didn't occur to any harm to the snake

1965
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:35,760
you know so it didn't really click with

1966
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:37,120
me to really want to

1967
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:39,840
fight this harder to to come to to a

1968
01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:41,040
better understanding

1969
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:44,560
to overcome my fears but you know i had

1970
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:47,120
my concealed carry at that time and i

1971
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:48,880
was kind of going in and out the back

1972
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:49,840
porch and there was

1973
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:52,400
there was a concrete patio well anyway i

1974
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,080
was getting out

1975
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:56,400
and i saw this rod sticking out what is

1976
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:57,840
this roddy i never

1977
01:17:01,189 --> 01:17:00,080
seen it so i just thought i want to go

1978
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:01,199
and take it out

1979
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:03,040
i quickly realized it was the snake

1980
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:05,280
coming out of hole

1981
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:07,679
foolishly i just got out i got it out i

1982
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:10,159
was like bam bam bam bam you know

1983
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:12,159
it like coiled back in and went into the

1984
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:13,440
hole i didn't hit it

1985
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:15,360
you know but there was some one of

1986
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:16,719
perfect examples how

1987
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:20,080
absolutely silly and stupid you know i

1988
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:23,120
was reacting you know and anyway

1989
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:25,600
after the other two snakes after i then

1990
01:17:29,830 --> 01:17:26,239
killed them

1991
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,840
that's when i progressed to overcome it

1992
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:31,920
and so

1993
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:33,840
sorry to kind of give you this round you

1994
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:36,159
know roundabout way to get to my point

1995
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:39,840
is work towards what you fear the most

1996
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:42,560
you know it's like you know look at it

1997
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:44,159
think about it differently change your

1998
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:46,239
belief system and you change the way you

1999
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:47,840
look at certain things

2000
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:49,920
you know and your life will be that much

2001
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:51,199
better you know and

2002
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:53,040
and that much more productive and that

2003
01:18:10,630 --> 01:17:54,719
much more happier when you have less

2004
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:14,229
if you if you guys um we can keep going

2005
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:15,840
if you like i don't know if you have any

2006
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,120
more questions for me

2007
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:19,600
if you can maybe give me a direction

2008
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:21,199
that you would like me to

2009
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:24,640
to uh go into i can

2010
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:28,239
i can do that because otherwise i can

2011
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:29,840
come up with something else

2012
01:18:33,669 --> 01:18:31,600
just give me an indicator in the comment

2013
01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:33,679
section if you want to keep this going

2014
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:35,199
or not because i understand it's your

2015
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,400
friday night and

2016
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:38,560
you probably have other things to do and

2017
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:39,840
like i said before i certainly

2018
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:41,760
appreciate you taking the time to

2019
01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:44,080
be here with me and just hear me out

2020
01:18:52,840 --> 01:19:15,750
experiences

2021
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:18,870
okay there's uh elvie begovic says

2022
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:20,719
greetings from holland i will try to

2023
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:22,000
enjoy the conference

2024
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,640
keep spreading the light bro posdra

2025
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:26,480
elvir is my brother's name too

2026
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:30,000
so it's pretty cool yeah welcome

2027
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:36,560
thanks for for being here

2028
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:51,350
bradley kurtzen again asking have you

2029
01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:52,000
ever

2030
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:55,280
woken up with marks or marks on you

2031
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:59,120
that shouldn't be there um not that

2032
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:01,120
that i personally noticed the group that

2033
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:03,600
i was with in san luis

2034
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:06,320
there was one particular friend of mine

2035
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:06,800
now

2036
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:11,679
pictures whenever he would

2037
01:20:17,830 --> 01:20:14,880
have these different experiences and so

2038
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:17,840
let's say he would have an experience

2039
01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:18,239
where

2040
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:21,520
he felt um they were

2041
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:23,520
doing something to him and he could see

2042
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:24,560
them

2043
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:27,920
it would be particularly disgrace

2044
01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:30,960
that they would try to have this rod

2045
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:31,600
kind of go

2046
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:33,760
to his arm to do something and then he

2047
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:35,120
will come to the meeting and there would

2048
01:20:38,629 --> 01:20:35,440
be

2049
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:38,639
three perfect triangular dots equal from

2050
01:20:43,030 --> 01:20:40,000
each other coming out

2051
01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:43,040
now of course uh we kind of took him

2052
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:45,360
you know by his word understanding that

2053
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,199
we're in the supportive group or people

2054
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:49,280
just talking about their experiences

2055
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:52,560
i don't know if he if he figured out

2056
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,639
somehow to draw it perfectly on himself

2057
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:56,400
and then have a cool story to tell

2058
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:59,840
you know but we were we we hope that we

2059
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,719
knew each other

2060
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:02,639
you know enough to know that these you

2061
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:04,080
know we're all serious about what we're

2062
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:04,480
doing

2063
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:07,199
and not trying to pull one over you know

2064
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:07,760
uh

2065
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:19,669
and also um there was one i mentioned

2066
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:20,400
this when i

2067
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,159
actually gave a talk at the ozark

2068
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:24,239
conference in 2019

2069
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:27,360
i often talk to my wife about

2070
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:29,520
before i say something in relation to

2071
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:31,840
her because i don't want to

2072
01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:33,920
involve her if she doesn't want to be

2073
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:35,760
part of it i mean she's totally into it

2074
01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:37,199
just like i am

2075
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:40,400
you know and uh the but i still didn't

2076
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:41,040
want to

2077
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:43,040
mention anything if she if she felt

2078
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:44,880
uncomfortable about it anyway she didn't

2079
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:45,840
mind so

2080
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:49,040
um what was interesting is that

2081
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:52,080
things don't stop when you when you have

2082
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:54,320
a family you know especially in my case

2083
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:57,679
they never uh things have slowed down

2084
01:22:01,350 --> 01:22:00,639
but they don't exactly stop you know uh

2085
01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:01,360
happening

2086
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:04,560
and a perfect example was

2087
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:07,199
my wife uh the next morning we woke up

2088
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:08,000
and um

2089
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:09,440
you know we're kind of sitting there

2090
01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:11,600
she's making coffee and and she's like

2091
01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:12,239
so

2092
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:15,600
um i know you said to

2093
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:18,800
um you know i don't i don't want to

2094
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:20,320
scare you when i tell you this and i'm

2095
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:21,840
like come on you know you won't scare me

2096
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:22,960
just what is it you know what's

2097
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:24,480
happening it's like i had

2098
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:27,600
some interesting happen i said okay

2099
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:30,960
and she's like you i woke up and uh just

2100
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:34,239
to give you a little setting beforehand

2101
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:36,080
my wife and i we have two queen beds

2102
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:37,520
together where i have my side and she

2103
01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:38,000
has her

2104
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:41,360
side we just i'm very hot at night she

2105
01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:41,679
is

2106
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,719
you know

2107
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:46,800
and and all that stuff that usual

2108
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,800
couples do it's like i want my space she

2109
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:50,639
wants her space we love each other very

2110
01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:52,480
much it's just how we are and it works

2111
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:53,920
out great that we both feel

2112
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:56,880
feel about the same way but the room is

2113
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:57,679
small

2114
01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:00,000
so the two beds queen size beds they're

2115
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:01,760
about five feet apart

2116
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:03,679
and the way we had them set they went

2117
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:05,520
from corner to corner of the room and

2118
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:06,000
there was

2119
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:08,080
no more space there's just literally

2120
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:09,520
just enough snug

2121
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:12,239
space and room for those two mattresses

2122
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:14,880
to fall into those two spots

2123
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:17,360
well she said she woke up and looked

2124
01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:17,920
over

2125
01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:20,080
and there was between her bed and my bed

2126
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:21,199
that was about

2127
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:24,880
10 15 feet space and then

2128
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:28,000
about another five feet of space past my

2129
01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:28,719
bed

2130
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:31,920
and she said there were four grays

2131
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:35,199
on each on each of my limbs so

2132
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:39,760
uh on my wrists and my um

2133
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,880
my ankles and they were i can't remember

2134
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:44,960
if she said they were holding on or

2135
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,239
something was happening and she she said

2136
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,480
when she woke up she looked one of them

2137
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:52,320
turned around looked at her

2138
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:55,440
and um and then that was pretty much it

2139
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:56,800
kind of waiting to see what she was

2140
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,679
going to do

2141
01:24:02,149 --> 01:23:59,760
she saw it and i said what did you do

2142
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:02,159
she's like well i figured it's just them

2143
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:03,840
i didn't know what else to do so i just

2144
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:06,320
went to bed i was like all right i mean

2145
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:07,840
i would have probably done the same

2146
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:09,840
thing because i we know what's what's

2147
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:10,800
happening it's

2148
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:13,280
we don't always have to like try to

2149
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:14,800
figure out oh my god what is going on

2150
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:16,400
every minute you know things will come

2151
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,360
and sure enough

2152
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:19,199
while she's sitting there talking to me

2153
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:21,040
and again it wasn't a voice or anything

2154
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:22,560
like that it's just a feeling that

2155
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:23,679
overcomes me

2156
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:26,480
and and comes with an understanding they

2157
01:24:31,510 --> 01:24:27,840
just simply said

2158
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:31,520
um it's supposed to be the the imagery

2159
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:33,920
was supposed to be interpreted not not

2160
01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:34,960
as control

2161
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:39,280
or them over me but that they're guiding

2162
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:42,000
meaning they're guiding my my path my

2163
01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:42,960
direction

2164
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:45,520
you know and again it's one of those

2165
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:47,199
things where you know

2166
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:48,719
your thoughts and then you know when

2167
01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:50,239
other things come to you

2168
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:52,719
and so those things can often occur you

2169
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:53,920
know to where

2170
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:57,760
you just you know take that message as

2171
01:25:01,510 --> 01:24:58,800
is and go on

2172
01:25:02,550 --> 01:25:01,520
you know this one one thing too is that

2173
01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:02,560
i live i like to

2174
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:04,480
think that i live my life normally like

2175
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:05,600
everyone else i

2176
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:07,840
go to places have fun when i can

2177
01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:09,760
recently not so much because

2178
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:11,920
we got two kids another one due in two

2179
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:13,120
months

2180
01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:17,120
you know and so um you know i just

2181
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,639
you know i don't talk to people about

2182
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:20,480
any of the stuff unless they approach me

2183
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:23,760
or they want to know and so i basically

2184
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:27,040
um um

2185
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:30,400
the you know when i tell

2186
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,800
people and go into the details of all

2187
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:34,960
this weird stuff happening

2188
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:37,199
you know especially one of my co-workers

2189
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:39,360
and great friend of mine

2190
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:41,120
she kind of heard me out of what i had

2191
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:42,719
to say because she was kind of wondering

2192
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:44,560
what am i doing at these conferences all

2193
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:46,000
the time and i told her a little bit

2194
01:25:50,229 --> 01:25:47,920
about certain experiences

2195
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:50,239
and she's just like but you seem so

2196
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:50,960
normal

2197
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:53,440
you know like that's supposed to be kind

2198
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,960
of like a compliment or it was a

2199
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:56,400
puzzling to her

2200
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:57,840
and i asked you about like what do you

2201
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:59,360
what do you mean of course i'm normal

2202
01:26:02,950 --> 01:25:59,920
you know

2203
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:02,960
and it's kind of like the way they

2204
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:03,520
perceive

2205
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:05,920
me i do everything that a normal person

2206
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:08,159
does but yet there's an entire

2207
01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:10,320
life and these whole stories that are

2208
01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:12,239
right there that if you told anyone else

2209
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:13,280
they'll they're just

2210
01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:16,080
labeled as just absolutely nuts you know

2211
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:16,719
and so

2212
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:19,199
those are some of the funny things that

2213
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:20,880
that i get from people often

2214
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:24,159
or um uh one person's found out that

2215
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:26,320
i'm into ufos and aliens and stuff like

2216
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:27,600
that

2217
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:29,440
and she came to me and be all like you

2218
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:32,080
know miss spazzy and she's like so

2219
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,440
uh i don't believe in aliens i was like

2220
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,280
okay it's like what do you have to say

2221
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:39,040
about that i'm like

2222
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:41,520
i have nothing to say you know she

2223
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:43,120
thought i was going to be like please

2224
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:45,120
believe in aliens can i please convince

2225
01:27:07,669 --> 01:26:46,400
you somehow i was like

2226
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:14,310
okay i have um

2227
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:17,189
this this person wrote me last time too

2228
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:18,960
they said just pronounce it the way it's

2229
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:20,000
pronounced and

2230
01:27:24,629 --> 01:27:23,280
creatious creation but i still don't

2231
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:24,639
know ro

2232
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:30,639
rovad reviems

2233
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:33,760
i'm sorry i i i'm um

2234
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,159
i still i don't i have never heard that

2235
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:37,760
name personally so i'm sorry if i'm

2236
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:39,840
butchering your name

2237
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:43,199
it says uh don't have my own experiences

2238
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:44,719
related to

2239
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:47,520
contacts with other races so i find it

2240
01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:48,560
hard to believe

2241
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,719
stories that are not part of my

2242
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,920
experience

2243
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:53,920
how to recognize who is telling the

2244
01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:56,000
truth you know that's very challenging

2245
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:57,440
because especially for me

2246
01:28:03,510 --> 01:27:59,840
because when i have to interact with any

2247
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:03,520
crowd whether i'm in person or here

2248
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:06,239
some of these things are so outlandish

2249
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:08,320
you know and really are unbelievable if

2250
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,159
i haven't gone through it myself

2251
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:12,000
to where you know i don't know if

2252
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:13,440
somebody's genuinely

2253
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:16,000
asking me a question or if it's somebody

2254
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:16,960
just

2255
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:21,120
can go to their friends and go haha look

2256
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:23,040
at these idiots they believe in anything

2257
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,360
you know because you just in a way don't

2258
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:29,520
know other than to just follow your own

2259
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:30,400
intuition

2260
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:32,880
because i've always ever since i was a

2261
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,520
kid

2262
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:35,199
and you know i don't know if this is a

2263
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:37,120
development that

2264
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:39,199
came later and i'm sure everybody has in

2265
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:40,480
some form or another

2266
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:42,800
but there's like something within you

2267
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:46,000
that if somebody is telling me a story

2268
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,320
it's it's 99 of the time i can

2269
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:50,719
immediately say this person is bs'ing me

2270
01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:52,800
you know but that happens a lot easier

2271
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:54,560
when i'm when i'm in person

2272
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:56,400
i don't know what it is i have no

2273
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,400
scientific explanation to say

2274
01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:00,239
well they winked twice and they put

2275
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:02,320
cross their arms and that's a sign that

2276
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:04,080
they're about to tell a lie or something

2277
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:04,960
like that

2278
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:07,600
you know it's just simply a look at them

2279
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:09,120
and recognize that okay

2280
01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:11,280
i let them finish i let them think that

2281
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:12,159
they

2282
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:16,080
them go even though deep down

2283
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,679
you know i'm like they would be asking

2284
01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:19,280
me totally you know

2285
01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:21,920
it's it's again it's really difficult

2286
01:29:26,790 --> 01:29:23,199
it's really difficult to

2287
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:29,430
to give you an example for example when

2288
01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:30,159
i

2289
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:41,280
well we don't have the rockets they

2290
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:43,120
won't get us that far out we need a

2291
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:44,960
different fuel and all this other stuff

2292
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:46,320
right they're trying to understand about

2293
01:29:50,830 --> 01:29:47,760
ufos

2294
01:29:55,990 --> 01:29:50,840
the uh

2295
01:30:04,229 --> 01:29:56,000
keep drawing it blank it's going to come

2296
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:07,270
okay uh tell the truth when i was

2297
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:08,960
shifting over basically from this nuts

2298
01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:10,960
and bolts i

2299
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:13,199
when i found out about bashar it would

2300
01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:14,080
be a guy

2301
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:17,760
in a chair talking with his eyes closed

2302
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:19,280
and he would say some very profound

2303
01:30:23,590 --> 01:30:21,040
stuff that just felt like it's right you

2304
01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:23,600
know and what what he's saying is right

2305
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:25,760
and it would be giving these directions

2306
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:27,360
right through channeling as i mentioned

2307
01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:28,159
before

2308
01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:30,560
about belief systems and how you should

2309
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:31,280
go about

2310
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,880
changing those and it'll help you in

2311
01:30:36,149 --> 01:30:34,560
your life

2312
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:36,159
well that to me right there was

2313
01:30:41,830 --> 01:30:39,440
something that i could follow up on

2314
01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:41,840
you know and it's like at that time you

2315
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:44,000
know it was kind of the thought well

2316
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:45,760
i have nothing else to do i'm sitting

2317
01:30:49,990 --> 01:30:47,520
here watching a guy channeling

2318
01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:50,000
you know and it's like what what else

2319
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,760
you have to lose if i just

2320
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:53,440
you know try some of these things that

2321
01:30:58,229 --> 01:30:55,360
that he's saying i mean he's not asking

2322
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:58,239
any money of me he's simply saying

2323
01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:59,840
change your beliefs and you'll change

2324
01:31:02,229 --> 01:31:01,440
the way you know you feel about

2325
01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:02,239
something

2326
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:05,120
and sure enough as i progressed and and

2327
01:31:09,830 --> 01:31:06,800
did the same thing and and

2328
01:31:12,790 --> 01:31:09,840
applied that i could see the

2329
01:31:14,950 --> 01:31:12,800
vast changes in my life that got better

2330
01:31:17,189 --> 01:31:14,960
and so i went back to get more info

2331
01:31:17,990 --> 01:31:17,199
and more changes and more things applied

2332
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:18,000
to my life

2333
01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:21,360
toward now i had my proof to say well he

2334
01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:22,159
might be

2335
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:24,480
a guy sitting in a chair chatting an

2336
01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:25,199
alien

2337
01:31:28,709 --> 01:31:26,719
that might not be true but the

2338
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:28,719
information that they've given me

2339
01:31:31,750 --> 01:31:30,719
i was able to apply in my life to help

2340
01:31:34,310 --> 01:31:31,760
me out so

2341
01:31:35,510 --> 01:31:34,320
that was a justification for me to

2342
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:35,520
believe and then

2343
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:38,000
move move forward and at no point over

2344
01:31:42,390 --> 01:31:39,760
the years that i've also

2345
01:31:44,390 --> 01:31:42,400
you know tried to understand how to go

2346
01:31:46,550 --> 01:31:44,400
about contact getting

2347
01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:46,560
directions from them at no point did i

2348
01:31:50,149 --> 01:31:48,080
even feel

2349
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:50,159
that wait a minute this is wrong or

2350
01:31:54,310 --> 01:31:52,080
anything like that it was always very

2351
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:54,320
enlightening always very

2352
01:32:13,669 --> 01:31:57,600
informative and and it helped me to take

2353
01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:13,679
the next educated step

2354
01:32:21,430 --> 01:32:20,550
this didn't have any ques any marks on

2355
01:32:24,310 --> 01:32:21,440
them

2356
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:24,320
but it says this is from hazel blair

2357
01:32:31,990 --> 01:32:26,400
says do you have a link

2358
01:32:36,470 --> 01:32:34,870
if you go to the ufo hub main channel if

2359
01:32:38,709 --> 01:32:36,480
you go to videos

2360
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:38,719
there's i've interviewed and i believe

2361
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:40,480
it was 2015

2362
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:43,280
or so i interviewed uh daryl enkei

2363
01:32:47,189 --> 01:32:44,080
himself

2364
01:32:48,149 --> 01:32:47,199
and uh it was great to actually you know

2365
01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:48,159
meet him because

2366
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:49,840
to me i was a little bit star struck

2367
01:32:52,629 --> 01:32:51,120
because you know i've been watching

2368
01:32:54,709 --> 01:32:52,639
bashar and channeling

2369
01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:54,719
and then to talk to daryl and here i am

2370
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:56,239
sitting across from him and he's just

2371
01:33:00,709 --> 01:32:57,679
talking to me like a normal

2372
01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:00,719
person you know and being uh in this

2373
01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:02,800
living room you know real nice guy

2374
01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:05,840
you know and um that was great but

2375
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:06,480
anyway

2376
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:08,560
there's uh interview about him there and

2377
01:33:11,669 --> 01:33:09,600
i believe

2378
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:11,679
i should have had in the description box

2379
01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:20,629
okay this i'm sorry i guess i skipped

2380
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:22,000
over this one this was

2381
01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:25,920
from bradley bradley again

2382
01:33:32,149 --> 01:33:29,120
says as as because

2383
01:33:33,430 --> 01:33:32,159
years ago i woke up with rash in the

2384
01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:33,440
shape of

2385
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:36,320
a hand that was bigger than mine have no

2386
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:37,760
idea

2387
01:33:44,390 --> 01:33:40,960
where it came from it

2388
01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:44,400
it may mature i'm

2389
01:33:50,070 --> 01:33:48,000
i make it me

2390
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:50,080
i'm sorry maybe you misspelled something

2391
01:33:53,669 --> 01:33:51,679
it may nate

2392
01:33:54,790 --> 01:33:53,679
or maybe maybe natural is that what

2393
01:33:58,149 --> 01:33:54,800
you're trying to say

2394
01:34:02,870 --> 01:33:58,159
um i make no assumptions

2395
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:05,030
yeah i mean i i don't know you know it's

2396
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:06,960
um

2397
01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:09,840
when it comes to especially contact and

2398
01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:11,600
uh when it comes to

2399
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:14,880
you having physical marks left behind to

2400
01:34:18,709 --> 01:34:16,560
kind of give you

2401
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:18,719
startle or makes you wonder about what's

2402
01:34:22,390 --> 01:34:19,760
going on

2403
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:22,400
in the very beginning obviously to jake

2404
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:24,080
david jacob's books and

2405
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:26,159
and others it created a lot of fear in

2406
01:34:29,590 --> 01:34:28,400
this field create a lot of fear because

2407
01:34:31,189 --> 01:34:29,600
it's something that was

2408
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:31,199
you know you're being abducted middle of

2409
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:33,360
the night nobody can do anything about

2410
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:34,800
it neither can you

2411
01:34:38,229 --> 01:34:36,560
sometimes you wake up during the

2412
01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:38,239
procedure sometimes you don't

2413
01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:41,040
and it's it was very a powerless

2414
01:34:44,149 --> 01:34:41,840
experience

2415
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:44,159
i remember feeling very angry and pissed

2416
01:34:47,510 --> 01:34:45,520
off i was like these

2417
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:47,520
mother efforts if they come after me i'm

2418
01:34:52,709 --> 01:34:50,159
gonna do this i'm gonna do that you know

2419
01:34:53,669 --> 01:34:52,719
and it was just funny thinking back on

2420
01:34:56,950 --> 01:34:53,679
it now

2421
01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:56,960
the thing is that um

2422
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:58,719
one of the experiences just to cut it

2423
01:35:02,629 --> 01:35:00,000
short so i don't have to go into

2424
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:02,639
a long drawn-out story when i learned

2425
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:03,199
that

2426
01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:06,000
we make agreements before we were born

2427
01:35:09,830 --> 01:35:07,440
that we make agreements

2428
01:35:11,350 --> 01:35:09,840
with um with everything that's going to

2429
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:11,360
be happening in our lives

2430
01:35:18,790 --> 01:35:15,360
at a certain stage of our lives and that

2431
01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:18,800
you willingly went

2432
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:22,400
into this you know into this knowingly

2433
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:23,040
what

2434
01:35:32,709 --> 01:35:30,639
with my parents because there was uh one

2435
01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:32,719
one particular instance where i overdid

2436
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:34,000
it with the um

2437
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:37,520
hallucigens and basically uh died

2438
01:35:42,310 --> 01:35:40,560
and that's when i had the experience of

2439
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:42,320
seeing my parents but it was confusing

2440
01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:43,600
me because

2441
01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:45,040
why would they be there my parents

2442
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:47,199
aren't dead you know and i saw them both

2443
01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:47,679
and this

2444
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:49,040
they're very young they were in their

2445
01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:51,600
20s although they were

2446
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:54,480
close to 50s and you know at that at

2447
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:55,360
that time

2448
01:36:01,109 --> 01:35:59,040
in in my you know in life so it was

2449
01:36:02,790 --> 01:36:01,119
weird it was kind of looking at them as

2450
01:36:05,270 --> 01:36:02,800
when i looked at them as a child

2451
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:05,280
you know but they were kind of just you

2452
01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:05,920
know

2453
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:08,960
we were in this space that was just

2454
01:36:12,629 --> 01:36:11,920
vast of just blackness but they they

2455
01:36:14,390 --> 01:36:12,639
stood out

2456
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:14,400
and they kind of floated towards me and

2457
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:16,239
i floated towards them and what was so

2458
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,280
weird is that

2459
01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:19,679
my relationship with them there was

2460
01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:21,280
entirely different

2461
01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:24,560
it was like my best buddies my

2462
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:27,199
my you know i don't know how to describe

2463
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:28,000
it like the

2464
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:30,320
people that have my back no matter what

2465
01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:31,280
you know

2466
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:34,480
and that's when i had these occurrences

2467
01:36:37,910 --> 01:36:35,520
of memories

2468
01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:37,920
coming back of of it was so weird

2469
01:36:41,430 --> 01:36:38,800
because

2470
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:41,440
you know i like to draw my memories from

2471
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:42,960
my life that i experienced

2472
01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:44,719
living but when you have these

2473
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:46,000
experiences

2474
01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:48,320
you know that you know you didn't

2475
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:50,000
experience why you were alive that had

2476
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,560
something

2477
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:52,560
before you were born basically it was

2478
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:54,960
strange and there was a memory that

2479
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:57,199
i made an agreement with them i even

2480
01:37:00,709 --> 01:36:58,080
begged them

2481
01:37:01,510 --> 01:37:00,719
because they knew what i was asking of

2482
01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:01,520
them what did it

2483
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:03,440
require for me to go through to be the

2484
01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:04,719
person i am now

2485
01:37:08,470 --> 01:37:06,800
and all the things that i was describing

2486
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:08,480
earlier for them the way they they were

2487
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:09,520
raising me

2488
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:12,560
and they they they i had to beg them to

2489
01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:13,199
please

2490
01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:15,360
be these people i need you to be so that

2491
01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:17,199
i can have this experience

2492
01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:20,320
and they agreed you know and and agreed

2493
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:22,159
very reluctantly you know because they

2494
01:37:25,109 --> 01:37:23,360
knew the pain

2495
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:25,119
that they would be inflicting and nobody

2496
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:27,440
wants to inflict other people pain

2497
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:30,000
you know and when i had that experience

2498
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:32,159
that was also one of the examples where

2499
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:35,600
it just alleviated all my

2500
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:38,159
hate towards them all my anger

2501
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:40,000
everything you can imagine it was just

2502
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:40,800
gone

2503
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:42,960
you know and i understood how and i felt

2504
01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:44,000
ashamed

2505
01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:48,239
on them for being the way they were

2506
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:50,560
but then when i had recalled my own

2507
01:37:53,669 --> 01:37:51,600
memory about

2508
01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:53,679
me asking them i felt so bad i was like

2509
01:37:57,830 --> 01:37:55,280
oh my god i asked you

2510
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:57,840
i begged you to do this and look how

2511
01:38:02,310 --> 01:37:59,760
mean i am to you now

2512
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:02,320
you know and so anyway that is doesn't

2513
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:04,800
just happens for us it happens in

2514
01:38:11,270 --> 01:38:08,239
every timeline because these beings

2515
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:11,280
are not like some kind of strange you

2516
01:38:15,350 --> 01:38:12,639
know

2517
01:38:17,189 --> 01:38:15,360
aliens that you can't relate to they're

2518
01:38:17,669 --> 01:38:17,199
also part of the whole part of the

2519
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:17,679
source

2520
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,880
just like you are and so they have also

2521
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:22,320
their own experiences and their

2522
01:38:26,629 --> 01:38:24,159
dimensions and their version of

2523
01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:26,639
their existence and we have ours and

2524
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,360
sometimes

2525
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:29,280
you know they're on that on these

2526
01:38:34,070 --> 01:38:31,440
different levels there is no barriers

2527
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:34,080
you can make agreements you know and

2528
01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:35,920
depends on what it is that

2529
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:37,840
they want to do you can be like oh hey i

2530
01:38:41,669 --> 01:38:39,600
want to be part of this you know hybrid

2531
01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:41,679
program or i want to be part of that

2532
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:44,080
now of course i'm simplifying it i don't

2533
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:45,760
mean to make light of it

2534
01:38:49,910 --> 01:38:47,679
you know but because at the end of the

2535
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:49,920
day people are genuinely going through

2536
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:52,560
some very traumatic experiences but

2537
01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:53,440
other than

2538
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:56,560
asking you to dig deep down and try to

2539
01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:58,080
do everything you can to where you can

2540
01:39:01,430 --> 01:39:00,320
remember and trying to figure out that

2541
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:01,440
you know hey you

2542
01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:03,600
wanted to be part of this that is the

2543
01:39:07,189 --> 01:39:05,119
only way

2544
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:07,199
but you actually going into that

2545
01:39:10,390 --> 01:39:09,119
direction to wanting to remember will it

2546
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:10,400
help alleviate

2547
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:12,480
some of these things so when you are you

2548
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:14,000
know waking up

2549
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:15,840
the next morning you see some marks on

2550
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:17,760
you that weren't there before and have

2551
01:39:20,870 --> 01:39:20,320
weird handprints and whatever you know

2552
01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:20,880
just

2553
01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:27,199
experience and in my opinion to you

2554
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:29,920
is that none of that happens outside of

2555
01:39:33,109 --> 01:39:30,719
your control

2556
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:33,119
you are fully and utterly a willing

2557
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:52,310
let's see here

2558
01:39:56,310 --> 01:39:54,390
is there any other questions that anyone

2559
01:40:01,189 --> 01:39:56,320
else has that you would like me possibly

2560
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:03,669
because i know um because i know you

2561
01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:04,960
guys

2562
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:08,159
um you have

2563
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:12,239
uh you know certain questions and you

2564
01:40:16,629 --> 01:40:14,639
want to share your stories and whatnot

2565
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:16,639
and and i do encourage you to do that as

2566
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:18,480
i was saying earlier you know and

2567
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:22,480
but sometimes on a in a public platform

2568
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:24,480
there's no quick help other than to

2569
01:40:28,149 --> 01:40:26,480
maybe tell the story there's really

2570
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:28,159
nothing that can be of substance that

2571
01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:29,600
somebody then can

2572
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:32,400
tell you i give you that that will truly

2573
01:40:37,270 --> 01:40:34,239
help in that short period of time

2574
01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:37,280
you know and so um that's why

2575
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:40,719
everything that was happening to me i um

2576
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:42,880
other than maybe mentioning it to people

2577
01:40:45,669 --> 01:40:45,040
that were into this kind of stuff as i

2578
01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:45,679
am

2579
01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:48,320
i've never talked to anyone until

2580
01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:49,760
eventually i was

2581
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:52,000
you know 20 years into it and then

2582
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:52,880
finally just

2583
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,760
kind of got out the closet and just made

2584
01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:57,440
it public and

2585
01:41:01,990 --> 01:40:59,760
started living it in more of a public

2586
01:41:06,229 --> 01:41:02,000
way but other than that you know it's

2587
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:06,239
it's um it's something that i constantly

2588
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:09,520
had figured out on my own had to

2589
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:11,760
you know whatever i had to do that was

2590
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:13,040
just up to me

2591
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:16,480
to do you know the same way that you

2592
01:41:20,390 --> 01:41:18,880
learning to walk no one else can walk

2593
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:20,400
for you you have to

2594
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:22,400
figure out how to handle your own body

2595
01:41:26,950 --> 01:41:24,560
get up and use your legs and walk

2596
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,960
right to just use a simple analogy same

2597
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:28,239
thing with this

2598
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:31,199
you know take these silly meditation you

2599
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:31,760
know

2600
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:33,840
courses there's some free stuff online

2601
01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:36,000
you know there's free binaural beats you

2602
01:41:39,750 --> 01:41:37,840
can download you know

2603
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:39,760
there's meditations you can just do on

2604
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:41,360
your own without needing to

2605
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,560
to specifically you know have to buy or

2606
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:46,560
listen to someone else just go follow

2607
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:47,760
your own you know

2608
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:51,280
one example that was totally silly but

2609
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:54,320
i um in germany i did shotokan karate

2610
01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:55,920
for a long time

2611
01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:57,760
and so this particular thing didn't

2612
01:42:02,229 --> 01:41:59,119
necessarily have anything

2613
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:02,239
to do with having to use karate in the

2614
01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:05,679
way it's meant but just something silly

2615
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:07,520
that when i was younger you have a lot

2616
01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:09,760
of anger and all these things that just

2617
01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:12,400
kind of eaten eating at you about things

2618
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:13,520
somebody said

2619
01:42:16,870 --> 01:42:15,360
years ago and you wished you said

2620
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:16,880
something back and all this other stuff

2621
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:19,520
that i had to work out during that time

2622
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:21,440
i didn't know what else to do everything

2623
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:22,960
i was trying didn't help i was just

2624
01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:24,960
getting madder and madder and all i did

2625
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:26,560
is just in a silly way you know there

2626
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,520
was these two

2627
01:42:31,030 --> 01:42:29,119
karate movements that kind of put them

2628
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:31,040
together you don't usually do it at the

2629
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:32,000
same time

2630
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:34,480
which almost turned into tai chi to

2631
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:35,040
where

2632
01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:37,679
i imagined all this anger and everything

2633
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:39,440
i didn't like about myself

2634
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:42,560
as this just this dark cloud

2635
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,719
and i just basically kind of kind of

2636
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,080
compressed and collected

2637
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:48,400
and then kicked out and i was just doing

2638
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:49,280
these silly

2639
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:52,080
movements in my in my room while still

2640
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:52,719
living

2641
01:42:57,990 --> 01:42:56,080
how often was

2642
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:58,000
it was so difficult to relax because

2643
01:43:01,590 --> 01:42:59,760
when i'm really into it i tuned

2644
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,600
everything else out well my mom is going

2645
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:03,360
in and out of my damn room all the time

2646
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:05,360
so you know it's like how do you explain

2647
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,880
like i'm in the middle of doing this and

2648
01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:08,719
she's walking in you know

2649
01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:10,320
and so i was that would have been

2650
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,239
embarrassing to me at that time

2651
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:14,400
so anyway something that nobody told me

2652
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:15,280
to do but

2653
01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:18,480
something i did so anyway just follow

2654
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:19,280
anything

2655
01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:21,280
you know you know follow whatever

2656
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:23,199
whatever you feel like you need to do

2657
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:27,119
you know to to get yourself emotionally

2658
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:28,000
right

2659
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:30,000
you know because only then will you have

2660
01:43:33,750 --> 01:43:31,600
enough energy worked out

2661
01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:33,760
to where it becomes easier to to make

2662
01:43:37,830 --> 01:43:35,760
contact well hell look at even

2663
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:37,840
or after all these years i still have

2664
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,880
you know challenge

2665
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:40,639
challenges and difficulties where it's a

2666
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:42,480
lot easier for me just please let me be

2667
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:42,960
asleep

2668
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:45,600
when you come you know and just tell me

2669
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:46,080
you know

2670
01:43:49,669 --> 01:43:47,760
tell me what you need to tell me on that

2671
01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:49,679
end and i can it's a lot easier for me

2672
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:50,480
to

2673
01:43:57,189 --> 01:43:53,840
digest that information because one time

2674
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:57,199
there was an uh an occurrence when

2675
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:59,360
i was about to go outside it was pretty

2676
01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:00,480
late and i

2677
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:03,520
could sense something happening you know

2678
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:04,000
and

2679
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:13,360
just wanted to disappear right there in

2680
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,080
front of me

2681
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:16,239
you know it's like you could not care

2682
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:17,600
less for me being right

2683
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:19,760
then and there like you want to be gone

2684
01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:21,840
you know and i said i did because i

2685
01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:23,440
realized what was happening and like

2686
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:24,880
when this paranoia

2687
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:27,360
that's one of the physical effects side

2688
01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:28,960
effects that happens when this energy

2689
01:44:31,990 --> 01:44:29,920
comes through

2690
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:32,000
first you start feeling paranoid for no

2691
01:44:35,750 --> 01:44:33,199
apparent reason

2692
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:35,760
you know then it turns into this heavier

2693
01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:37,199
heavier anxiety

2694
01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:39,119
and then the more energy comes through

2695
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:41,040
you know it's really

2696
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:43,440
hard at least for the for the

2697
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:45,520
experiences and the the

2698
01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:47,040
the beings that i've been wanting to

2699
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:48,639
interact and the things that i've been

2700
01:44:53,189 --> 01:44:49,760
wanting to experience

2701
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:53,199
that is my path i'm sure there's

2702
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:55,280
at one level that are other beings that

2703
01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:56,719
are really close to us

2704
01:45:01,430 --> 01:44:59,520
to where those differences were not were

2705
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:01,440
you know would not be that great but

2706
01:45:05,189 --> 01:45:04,239
shorter you know or less to where you

2707
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:05,199
might just feel a little bit

2708
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:06,880
uncomfortable kind of like a

2709
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,719
nervousness before you meet somebody

2710
01:45:13,270 --> 01:45:10,320
like we do now on the planet

2711
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:13,280
but as of my recent experiences it's

2712
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:14,239
always been very

2713
01:45:31,990 --> 01:45:28,790
this next question again is from hazel

2714
01:45:35,109 --> 01:45:32,000
do you think the aliens ever

2715
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:35,119
question where they come from like we do

2716
01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:42,950
the certain of you know it depends on

2717
01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:43,600
which ones

2718
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:50,870
i can't speak from personal experience

2719
01:45:55,669 --> 01:45:53,119
you know regarding this it was just

2720
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:55,679
other others that i trust very much

2721
01:46:02,229 --> 01:46:00,239
about this is that especially

2722
01:46:03,270 --> 01:46:02,239
out of body experience you know the

2723
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:03,280
things that you experience

2724
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:11,750
there's more there for you to remember

2725
01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:13,840
and that's also the other part that you

2726
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:14,239
also

2727
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:16,960
become closer and closer to remembering

2728
01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:18,080
that you are

2729
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:20,639
kind of part of this huge universal soup

2730
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:21,360
and then

2731
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:23,440
more memories start coming back of why

2732
01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:24,639
did you come here

2733
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:26,480
and then more memories start coming back

2734
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:28,800
of other connections that you've had

2735
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:31,440
before you know other lives all these

2736
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:32,560
different things that

2737
01:46:36,149 --> 01:46:35,360
can be very heavy and bearing you know

2738
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:36,159
on you

2739
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:39,199
and um so anyway

2740
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:41,520
uh but these different levels don't have

2741
01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:43,440
that level of forgetfulness

2742
01:46:48,709 --> 01:46:46,639
so even though you can still kind of

2743
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:48,719
they can still have like a society like

2744
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:50,880
we do and go about their business and

2745
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:53,199
flying around and doing whatever they do

2746
01:46:57,910 --> 01:46:55,280
they don't have as much of limitation or

2747
01:47:00,550 --> 01:46:57,920
forgetfulness as we do this is just a

2748
01:47:00,950 --> 01:47:00,560
for our level where we live right now

2749
01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:00,960
it's a

2750
01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:04,480
you

2751
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:06,000
are coming down here to have this

2752
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:08,960
experience to truly have an experience

2753
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:11,440
it you have to forget because if you if

2754
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:13,040
you even have an inkling or an

2755
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:15,440
understanding of what's coming it's not

2756
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:16,800
and then you know it's not

2757
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:19,440
an entirely fulfilling experience we had

2758
01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:21,040
when you already know

2759
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:22,880
you know kind of like knowing the

2760
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:24,719
answers um

2761
01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:26,560
for the test you're about to take you

2762
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:28,080
know it's not quite the same

2763
01:47:34,830 --> 01:47:30,400
then when you don't know don't know it

2764
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:45,430
challenge

2765
01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:48,550
so for any of you still

2766
01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:54,950
the i know sometime it depends because

2767
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:55,360
this

2768
01:47:59,430 --> 01:47:57,360
you know different people submit to the

2769
01:48:02,470 --> 01:47:59,440
ufo hub channel for different reasons

2770
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:02,480
because the initial way that i started

2771
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:04,880
out was to um

2772
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:07,199
i didn't i didn't want to do this this

2773
01:48:10,390 --> 01:48:08,159
talking part

2774
01:48:11,669 --> 01:48:10,400
you know i was just uh you know i had

2775
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:11,679
this desire to

2776
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:14,080
want to do something about helping the

2777
01:48:18,709 --> 01:48:15,520
field of ufology

2778
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:18,719
but i didn't want to be a known face

2779
01:48:21,990 --> 01:48:20,320
you know i just wanted to keep living my

2780
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:22,000
life the way i was living it

2781
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:24,239
while i did interviews and just had the

2782
01:48:27,990 --> 01:48:25,520
people talk

2783
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:28,000
you know and um so i know some people

2784
01:48:31,430 --> 01:48:29,280
subscribe for

2785
01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:31,440
those reasons and then when they see me

2786
01:48:34,470 --> 01:48:32,800
they're like what is this

2787
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:34,480
you know and then they get get out you

2788
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:36,239
know and they unsubscribe and like it's

2789
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:38,080
not what i signed up for

2790
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:41,840
but um and so for me

2791
01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:45,199
the the thing is after a while um

2792
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:47,199
unless someone else asks a specific

2793
01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:48,480
question that i can

2794
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:50,320
dive into something else that i can

2795
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:52,000
speak on an experience

2796
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:54,480
it all becomes rehashed you know there's

2797
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:56,080
only so much

2798
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:58,080
so many times i can tell you the same

2799
01:49:02,550 --> 01:48:59,679
thing in different ways

2800
01:49:04,149 --> 01:49:02,560
after that if you can't take what what

2801
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:04,159
you're being given and try to apply it

2802
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:05,040
in your life

2803
01:49:08,629 --> 01:49:07,920
it's just going to be on repeat so

2804
01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:08,639
that's why

2805
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:10,560
a lot of times when when i make these

2806
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:11,760
different shows or

2807
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:14,880
it shows i make these different um

2808
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:17,840
talks i try to cover different things

2809
01:49:21,750 --> 01:49:19,280
although i have to repeat

2810
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:21,760
some stuff you know and i try to cover

2811
01:49:26,870 --> 01:49:22,480
it

2812
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:26,880
as much as i possibly can but

2813
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:28,560
after after a while it just becomes the

2814
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:31,920
same old same old and so i try to avoid

2815
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,320
speaking again because i already have

2816
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:36,159
these videos for you guys to watch

2817
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:37,760
and then if there's questions then of

2818
01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:39,360
course these questions could

2819
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:42,080
could possibly you know uh be answered

2820
01:49:45,350 --> 01:49:43,119
or not

2821
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:45,360
you know but i don't usually like to

2822
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:46,719
just keep

2823
01:49:50,390 --> 01:49:49,440
retelling a story or you know something

2824
01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:50,400
because people always

2825
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:53,040
ask very similar things because there

2826
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:54,320
are different stages

2827
01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:57,199
so if i explain to them what i've

2828
01:50:00,790 --> 01:49:58,719
experienced someone that has

2829
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,800
already watched maybe everything already

2830
01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:02,159
have they're like he's already talked

2831
01:50:06,070 --> 01:50:04,320
about this why is he covering this again

2832
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:06,080
you know and things like that so that's

2833
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:07,440
why i personally

2834
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:09,679
i'm not a big fan of just having to

2835
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:10,800
rehash everything

2836
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:12,880
over and over again that's why i wrote

2837
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,840
in the description

2838
01:50:17,910 --> 01:50:15,920
it says five stages of contact more

2839
01:50:19,750 --> 01:50:17,920
details because i feel like i've given

2840
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:19,760
more details now than i've given

2841
01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,960
in these different videos although on

2842
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,040
those i just kind of covered everything

2843
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:27,360
as a general picture with this it's a

2844
01:50:30,709 --> 01:50:28,800
bit more intimate where

2845
01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:30,719
you guys are asking questions and i can

2846
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:40,070
this is robot again can you

2847
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:43,599
describe in more details how you

2848
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:45,840
came to the realization that we are

2849
01:50:50,830 --> 01:50:46,880
coming to have

2850
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:50,840
certain experience in particular life

2851
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:54,800
um can you just quickly tell me did you

2852
01:50:58,229 --> 01:50:55,199
hear

2853
01:50:58,709 --> 01:50:58,239
that story about what i just said about

2854
01:51:09,910 --> 01:50:58,719
my

2855
01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:09,920
meaning did you did you you know did you

2856
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:10,480
uh

2857
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:13,440
hear me explain it or talk about it

2858
01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,880
because that kind of answers

2859
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:16,719
your question already if you if you

2860
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:26,229
meaning if you can

2861
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:28,320
if you can answer on the chat i'm

2862
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:29,920
looking for it

2863
01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:41,350
plus i believe there's um there's a

2864
01:52:00,830 --> 01:51:44,719
20 seconds delay between what i'm

2865
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:01,990
seeing

2866
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:05,119
anyway so there's ufo man saying hey

2867
01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:06,960
you're for hub

2868
01:52:11,750 --> 01:52:09,679
hey ufo man good to have you here if

2869
01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:11,760
you're still watching

2870
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:14,400
um hazel thank you for being here i've

2871
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:16,000
noticed you previously on

2872
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:18,960
other channels i mean on other shows

2873
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:21,360
thank you again for being here too

2874
01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:24,239
and um trying to see robot also last

2875
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:25,599
time here

2876
01:52:50,229 --> 01:52:28,880
uh last few shows that i've seen

2877
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:54,870
yep the um when it comes to

2878
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:57,030
when it's it's i don't know it's so

2879
01:53:02,390 --> 01:52:58,159
difficult to describe

2880
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:02,400
because a lot of these experiences are

2881
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:05,520
things that you learn and mentally grow

2882
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:06,239
from

2883
01:53:10,149 --> 01:53:08,560
although i'm still here physically i'm

2884
01:53:13,430 --> 01:53:10,159
older so many years

2885
01:53:16,229 --> 01:53:13,440
but my understanding is vastly different

2886
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:16,239
if i had to compare myself to how i was

2887
01:53:20,229 --> 01:53:16,960
even

2888
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:20,239
uh 10 15 years ago you know um

2889
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:22,320
if i didn't have the experience that i

2890
01:53:26,709 --> 01:53:23,599
did i i don't know

2891
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:26,719
i would have just really been truly um

2892
01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:29,920
just a you know average joe just

2893
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:33,199
doing my thing maybe go and play soccer

2894
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:34,560
maybe some baseball

2895
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:37,280
you know and hang out with friends and

2896
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:37,679
just

2897
01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:41,360
of activities to pass my day

2898
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:44,639
and would not have you know um cared

2899
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:46,239
about anything

2900
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,400
or anything to care about knowing

2901
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:50,719
anything that i that i know now

2902
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:54,080
and it does just change your life in a

2903
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:56,560
lot of ways because it gives you with a

2904
01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:59,199
gives you a tool set that you can take

2905
01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:00,080
and apply

2906
01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:03,040
in certain situations so that if i'm

2907
01:54:06,470 --> 01:54:03,760
faced

2908
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:06,480
with certain challenges or difficulties

2909
01:54:09,030 --> 01:54:08,080
before i would be like oh my god why is

2910
01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:09,040
this happening

2911
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:10,880
you know you immediately like get

2912
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:13,199
frustrated now i'm just kind of calm

2913
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:14,800
you know looking at what had occurred

2914
01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:16,560
and then just drawn back from my

2915
01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:17,280
experience

2916
01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:19,199
you know and understanding about more of

2917
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:21,280
the spiritual aspects i can be like

2918
01:54:25,510 --> 01:54:23,599
oh okay well this occurred because this

2919
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:25,520
this reason and all right let's let

2920
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:27,760
let's allow this to play out you know

2921
01:54:32,790 --> 01:54:29,040
instead of um

2922
01:54:35,589 --> 01:54:32,800
you know kind of just always reacting

2923
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:35,599
because i can actually act on something

2924
01:54:38,950 --> 01:54:36,560
that's happening

2925
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:38,960
and not always be blindsided by all the

2926
01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:55,750
um rov i still don't know

2927
01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:58,480
you haven't answered me you said can you

2928
01:55:01,990 --> 01:55:00,880
describe in more details how you came to

2929
01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:02,000
the realization

2930
01:55:08,229 --> 01:55:03,679
so i was asking you if you heard that

2931
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,709
to to your answer you know we said uh to

2932
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:12,480
the realization that

2933
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:14,320
we are coming to have certain

2934
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:16,840
experiences in particular life

2935
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:21,280
because what's what's so weird is that

2936
01:55:31,750 --> 01:55:28,550
one um when i when i was

2937
01:55:34,310 --> 01:55:31,760
basically doing these different things

2938
01:55:36,629 --> 01:55:34,320
changing my belief systems and and and

2939
01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:36,639
following your high highest excitement

2940
01:55:42,550 --> 01:55:38,800
you know all these you know

2941
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,560
these spiritual aspects these

2942
01:55:45,750 --> 01:55:44,560
spiritual messages you know when i was

2943
01:55:49,750 --> 01:55:45,760
just following that

2944
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:49,760
i um uh basically

2945
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:52,239
you you come across certain things that

2946
01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:53,040
that

2947
01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:54,719
in your path because you you've

2948
01:55:58,310 --> 01:55:56,639
attracted them you know you put things

2949
01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:58,320
out you get things back

2950
01:56:02,390 --> 01:56:00,639
and so mine was always knowledge

2951
01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:02,400
knowledge knowledge give me more give me

2952
01:56:05,830 --> 01:56:03,040
more

2953
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,840
you know and so it basically got to a

2954
01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:08,000
point to as i mentioned earlier where i

2955
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:08,800
came across

2956
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:12,000
these different i guess psychedelics

2957
01:56:18,390 --> 01:56:15,920
and one particular one is

2958
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:18,400
the one that i knew the least about you

2959
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:19,040
know

2960
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:21,040
and it was called hawaiian baby woodrow

2961
01:56:26,149 --> 01:56:23,679
seats for any of you watching i do not

2962
01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:26,159
condone it i don't recommend it all i'm

2963
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:27,760
simply is telling you what

2964
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:30,560
had happened to me you know and what

2965
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:31,440
resulted from

2966
01:56:37,669 --> 01:56:35,360
for that experience but um i was

2967
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:37,679
supposed to take like one or two of

2968
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:38,400
these little

2969
01:56:41,990 --> 01:56:40,880
seats you know and i had 12 of them so i

2970
01:56:45,669 --> 01:56:42,000
thought it was a great idea

2971
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:45,679
to take all 12. and so i did and

2972
01:56:49,030 --> 01:56:48,080
nothing happened you know everything was

2973
01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:49,040
just whatever

2974
01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:53,040
you know so i just went you know

2975
01:56:56,870 --> 01:56:55,040
about my business i even got i remember

2976
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:56,880
i got tired so i just laid down i said

2977
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:57,599
all right

2978
01:57:00,629 --> 01:56:59,280
nothing is going on i'm going to go to

2979
01:57:02,870 --> 01:57:00,639
sleep

2980
01:57:04,709 --> 01:57:02,880
and then you know we'll see how far i

2981
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:04,719
sleep get some more things done for the

2982
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:06,480
day and go to work the next day

2983
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:10,159
anyway i don't know how long went by

2984
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:12,880
but i was when i fell asleep i woke back

2985
01:57:16,310 --> 01:57:13,760
up

2986
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:16,320
with this distinct feeling like

2987
01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:17,119
something is

2988
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:20,239
wrong and that i've digested a poison it

2989
01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:22,080
wasn't paranoia it was just this

2990
01:57:27,030 --> 01:57:23,440
understanding

2991
01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:27,040
know

2992
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:29,280
and so i went to the bathroom i tried to

2993
01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:31,440
puke it out i drank so much water

2994
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:33,119
thinking i could maybe dilute it

2995
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:36,400
you know but it started taking hold of

2996
01:57:39,589 --> 01:57:37,040
me more

2997
01:57:41,270 --> 01:57:39,599
and more and more to where now i was

2998
01:57:41,669 --> 01:57:41,280
going into these different spasms

2999
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:41,679
because

3000
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:44,639
the effect that it had on my body um it

3001
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:45,520
was

3002
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:47,920
almost like you know like you took a

3003
01:57:51,750 --> 01:57:49,840
poison and there's nothing you can do

3004
01:57:54,550 --> 01:57:51,760
you just basically

3005
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:54,560
losing control of what you're doing and

3006
01:58:06,629 --> 01:57:54,880
i

3007
01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:06,639
don't want to go you know and

3008
01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:08,560
i just kept fighting it and fighting it

3009
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:10,080
and fighting it and

3010
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:13,119
um i i it felt like i fought it for

3011
01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:13,760
hours

3012
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:16,800
you know and i just i

3013
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:19,520
i don't know i just uh um i didn't wanna

3014
01:58:23,589 --> 01:58:20,080
i was

3015
01:58:25,750 --> 01:58:23,599
face trying to get out of this

3016
01:58:27,030 --> 01:58:25,760
you know and and thinking i could cheat

3017
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:27,040
this like you know

3018
01:58:30,629 --> 01:58:29,840
whatever just occurred to me and then i

3019
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:30,639
just

3020
01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:33,199
gave out you know i was very low on

3021
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:34,000
energy i could

3022
01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:36,480
barely move i i fought as much as i

3023
01:58:39,830 --> 01:58:37,520
possibly could

3024
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:39,840
and i just kind of lay down on my bed

3025
01:58:43,750 --> 01:58:41,760
because i didn't want to be on the floor

3026
01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:43,760
and i was it was the saddest thing ever

3027
01:58:47,510 --> 01:58:45,760
you know i was like i'm gonna go

3028
01:58:49,109 --> 01:58:47,520
i'm gonna go and i just over something

3029
01:58:53,109 --> 01:58:49,119
this stupid you know

3030
01:58:54,229 --> 01:58:53,119
and i kept trying to still fight it i

3031
01:58:59,750 --> 01:58:54,239
just

3032
01:59:02,149 --> 01:58:59,760
that was translated into words

3033
01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:02,159
and it overcame me and said you're gonna

3034
01:59:09,750 --> 01:59:02,800
die

3035
01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:09,760
and it was confusing but i still kept

3036
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:10,400
you know

3037
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:11,920
i didn't i didn't trust it and then

3038
01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:14,080
eventually like i

3039
01:59:17,510 --> 01:59:15,840
really exhausted every ounce of my

3040
01:59:20,950 --> 01:59:17,520
strength and i just remembered

3041
01:59:22,310 --> 01:59:20,960
i just went you know i was breathing out

3042
01:59:23,830 --> 01:59:22,320
and i was out

3043
01:59:27,030 --> 01:59:23,840
and that was the experience that i

3044
01:59:30,709 --> 01:59:30,310
when i experienced what i did you know

3045
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:30,719
and

3046
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:38,239
phase

3047
01:59:44,310 --> 01:59:41,760
of um this was meant to happen

3048
01:59:45,910 --> 01:59:44,320
for me to learn this to understand this

3049
01:59:48,709 --> 01:59:45,920
at this point in my life

3050
01:59:51,270 --> 01:59:48,719
to understand that everything leading

3051
01:59:53,990 --> 01:59:51,280
leading up to this point was no accident

3052
01:59:55,189 --> 01:59:54,000
and this was meant to happen in this way

3053
01:59:58,070 --> 01:59:55,199
and

3054
01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:58,080
after all that i experienced then during

3055
02:00:03,030 --> 01:59:59,119
that time

3056
02:00:05,109 --> 02:00:03,040
i got like a quick basically kind of

3057
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:05,119
came back but i was still not out of the

3058
02:00:08,709 --> 02:00:07,440
woods i just had the same feeling kind

3059
02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,719
of asked me said

3060
02:00:13,189 --> 02:00:10,639
now that you know how this goes do you

3061
02:00:14,790 --> 02:00:13,199
still want to play this game

3062
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:14,800
and i was like yeah i want to play the

3063
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:17,119
game and the second i said that

3064
02:00:21,430 --> 02:00:19,040
all of a sudden everything just became

3065
02:00:25,189 --> 02:00:21,440
more solid i was back here

3066
02:00:27,189 --> 02:00:25,199
but then i went and just did

3067
02:00:28,629 --> 02:00:27,199
speak all things in the bathroom i puked

3068
02:00:30,709 --> 02:00:28,639
it out exited

3069
02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:30,719
everything out of me in every way

3070
02:00:34,550 --> 02:00:32,800
possible because it was a poison that

3071
02:00:37,510 --> 02:00:34,560
needed to be flushed out

3072
02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:37,520
but it was it was that kind of control

3073
02:00:41,030 --> 02:00:37,840
that

3074
02:00:42,070 --> 02:00:41,040
you it wasn't my time to go so you know

3075
02:00:44,950 --> 02:00:42,080
whatever

3076
02:00:46,470 --> 02:00:44,960
was guiding that process it didn't end

3077
02:00:48,390 --> 02:00:46,480
me it's not like

3078
02:00:49,910 --> 02:00:48,400
i got hit by a truck to where my body

3079
02:00:50,790 --> 02:00:49,920
was disintegrated there was still a

3080
02:00:52,310 --> 02:00:50,800
control

3081
02:00:54,550 --> 02:00:52,320
to where the poison could still be

3082
02:00:57,750 --> 02:00:54,560
flushed out and just be done with

3083
02:01:00,870 --> 02:00:57,760
you know and um anyway so that was

3084
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:00,880
my experience of how i found out

3085
02:01:06,629 --> 02:01:04,000
that this is nothing is an accident

3086
02:01:08,470 --> 02:01:06,639
you know that i can't complain and

3087
02:01:10,870 --> 02:01:08,480
and moan about what i've been through

3088
02:01:12,070 --> 02:01:10,880
because you know i chose this i just

3089
02:01:15,030 --> 02:01:12,080
have to basically

3090
02:01:15,669 --> 02:01:15,040
uh experience it see how it feels and go

3091
02:01:18,070 --> 02:01:15,679
through it

3092
02:01:19,270 --> 02:01:18,080
because there's eventual reason why i

3093
02:01:22,229 --> 02:01:19,280
chose to do it

3094
02:01:22,709 --> 02:01:22,239
and finally go go go through it and be

3095
02:01:24,390 --> 02:01:22,719
be

3096
02:01:40,310 --> 02:01:24,400
you know kind of put it in my little

3097
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:45,830
okay so um

3098
02:01:51,430 --> 02:01:49,350
i think uh i think we put a good amount

3099
02:01:55,109 --> 02:01:51,440
of time in this

3100
02:01:57,189 --> 02:01:55,119
and uh this is all i

3101
02:01:58,550 --> 02:01:57,199
had to say i'm sorry that it didn't work

3102
02:02:01,189 --> 02:01:58,560
out to get a

3103
02:02:01,750 --> 02:02:01,199
get an interview with with another guest

3104
02:02:05,350 --> 02:02:01,760
but

3105
02:02:07,830 --> 02:02:05,360
i promise next week it would

3106
02:02:08,390 --> 02:02:07,840
work out better and honestly i tried i

3107
02:02:10,149 --> 02:02:08,400
had

3108
02:02:12,229 --> 02:02:10,159
i don't know if i said five six people i

3109
02:02:13,990 --> 02:02:12,239
contacted everybody's like i'm so sorry

3110
02:02:15,830 --> 02:02:14,000
i can't do it this friday

3111
02:02:17,750 --> 02:02:15,840
and this was one of those things to

3112
02:02:18,870 --> 02:02:17,760
where i couldn't i couldn't get out of

3113
02:02:22,070 --> 02:02:18,880
it it was

3114
02:02:24,550 --> 02:02:22,080
either not have the show or just be me

3115
02:02:25,109 --> 02:02:24,560
here sitting talking to you guys and so

3116
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:25,119
um

3117
02:02:28,229 --> 02:02:26,719
i don't know whoever needs to see this

3118
02:02:31,270 --> 02:02:28,239
or hear hear this

3119
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:31,280
i hope you get something from it

3120
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:34,000
and uh but at the end of the day just

3121
02:02:38,470 --> 02:02:34,639
please

3122
02:02:39,350 --> 02:02:38,480
try to go and and figure things out on

3123
02:02:41,109 --> 02:02:39,360
your own

3124
02:02:42,709 --> 02:02:41,119
i understand it's okay if you ask

3125
02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:42,719
questions on occasion but

3126
02:02:45,910 --> 02:02:44,400
when it truly comes to understanding

3127
02:02:47,589 --> 02:02:45,920
something you know you can't just

3128
02:02:49,109 --> 02:02:47,599
constantly going out asking asking

3129
02:02:52,470 --> 02:02:49,119
asking asking you know

3130
02:02:55,030 --> 02:02:52,480
take the time and just go within

3131
02:02:56,709 --> 02:02:55,040
like where where do you improve work

3132
02:02:58,229 --> 02:02:56,719
what can you do

3133
02:02:59,990 --> 02:02:58,239
as you're sitting wherever you are

3134
02:03:03,270 --> 02:03:00,000
sitting and then take

3135
02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:03,280
that step with constantly in mind of

3136
02:03:06,149 --> 02:03:05,440
contact contact conte contact contact

3137
02:03:09,430 --> 02:03:06,159
conte

3138
02:03:10,550 --> 02:03:09,440
and it could be that maybe it takes that

3139
02:03:13,589 --> 02:03:10,560
long like in brad

3140
02:03:15,510 --> 02:03:13,599
bradley's case but i still think it's

3141
02:03:18,550 --> 02:03:15,520
that it's not so much that it took so

3142
02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:18,560
long but i think you're

3143
02:03:22,950 --> 02:03:20,639
this is just my intuitive opinion you

3144
02:03:25,270 --> 02:03:22,960
know take it with the grain of salt

3145
02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:25,280
i just think that you know you can make

3146
02:03:32,550 --> 02:03:28,480
a lot more progress if you

3147
02:03:33,830 --> 02:03:32,560
looked at it less or tried to use it

3148
02:03:36,149 --> 02:03:33,840
less for

3149
02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:36,159
entertainment you know not not saying

3150
02:03:39,830 --> 02:03:37,199
that you are but

3151
02:03:40,629 --> 02:03:39,840
try to look at it more as each piece of

3152
02:03:43,189 --> 02:03:40,639
information

3153
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:43,199
valuable on its own and then try to act

3154
02:03:46,950 --> 02:03:43,920
on each

3155
02:03:47,830 --> 02:03:46,960
one of those if you can act on it so

3156
02:03:50,709 --> 02:03:47,840
anyway

3157
02:03:51,510 --> 02:03:50,719
um i think we've covered the recovery

3158
02:03:54,790 --> 02:03:51,520
quite a bit

3159
02:03:57,189 --> 02:03:54,800
thank you all very much i appreciate it

3160
02:03:58,470 --> 02:03:57,199
so next week hopefully by wednesday i'll

3161
02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:58,480
have a webcast

3162
02:04:02,629 --> 02:04:01,119
uh video up for you guys with uh terry

3163
02:04:05,669 --> 02:04:02,639
lovelace

3164
02:04:08,069 --> 02:04:05,679
and then we'll see uh at one one point

3165
02:04:10,470 --> 02:04:08,079
i'm hoping that maybe next week i can

3166
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:10,480
get uh georgia nori to talk to him

3167
02:04:13,510 --> 02:04:12,400
uh it it wouldn't be on friday it will

3168
02:04:16,310 --> 02:04:13,520
be some other day

3169
02:04:17,030 --> 02:04:16,320
at 7 00 pm but i'll still have another

3170
02:04:19,589 --> 02:04:17,040
um

3171
02:04:20,870 --> 02:04:19,599
friday night show as well with with

3172
02:04:23,130 --> 02:04:20,880
another guest so

3173
02:04:24,229 --> 02:04:23,140
potentially that week there could be two

3174
02:04:27,589 --> 02:04:24,239
[Music]

3175
02:04:29,109 --> 02:04:27,599
live ufo hob streams so anyway

3176
02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:29,119
thank you all very much i really

3177
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:30,719
appreciate your time

3178
02:04:34,709 --> 02:04:34,000
thank you for spending your friday night

3179
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:34,719
with me

3180
02:04:38,390 --> 02:04:36,320
i hope you learned something please

3181
02:04:41,510 --> 02:04:38,400
check out any of the other

3182
02:04:43,030 --> 02:04:41,520
ufo hub videos uh please subscribe if

3183
02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:43,040
you were just watching this

3184
02:04:46,950 --> 02:04:45,440
and um if you haven't already like the

3185
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:46,960
video it of course helps with the

3186
02:04:51,910 --> 02:04:47,920
algorithm

3187
02:05:18,830 --> 02:04:51,920
and um i'll see you guys soon thanks for